Posted on 05/01/2012 9:32:22 AM PDT by GregNH
Yeah, that would account for the ears.
When this was orginally discussed SADO, because of her age, did NOT meet the criteria to pass on citizenship. Am thinking that the phrasiology may have been manipulated here. IT needs to be checked out and if it’s been manipulated it should be call out, sent to Brent Bozall etc.
You're right that the entire thing is titled "Aliens and Nationality." But the section at hand talks about who's a citizen at birth. Regardless of whether you think being a citizen at birth makes you a natural born citizen or not, clearly someone who's a citizen at birth was never an alien. So no, you don't have to be an alien first for the section to apply.
There is that.
There is that.
There is that.
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/chapter-12
TITLE - Chapter - Section
And you're going to argue with me about it. AMAZING!
When the 3G network hangs, pushing “post” a couple of extra times doesn’t help the situation. Sorry y’all.
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Because you didn’t ask me first!
This is how your ridiculous argument is defended.
By refusing to rely upon facts, and just manipulating the words of others, you refuse to allow your argument to stand under the scrutiny of logic and law.
“Did I say they couldn’t be citizens?”
What you said was that “You have to be an Alien first for anything therein [in the law, that is] to apply.” The part of the law the article paraphrased, and which you didn’t appear to argue was paraphrased incorrectly, clarified certain basic qualification for citizenship from birth. Obviously, if you qualify according to the conditions laid out you are a citizen. And if that part of the law, at least, applies to citizens then your assertion that “You have to be an Alien first for anything therein to apply” was false.
That’s all I was saying.
“That child is still a naturalized citizen and not a natural born citizen.
Are you too stupid to understand that?”
Maybe so, as I’ve tried real hard and still can’t understand how someone can be native born without being natural born. I’ve heard the phrase “naturalized from birth,” but that doesn’t make any sense to me.
WTF?
Positive law doesn't make someone qualify for a natural law status.
Is someone going to explain the Minor decision and how 18 Supreme Court justices agreed on the definition of natural-born citizen: all children born in the country to parents who were its citizens.
The wording is 5 years past the 14th birthday...
Stan Ann was 18 when Barry was born
therein lies that original problem youre trying to remember...
She had to be 19 to infer American citizenship on her baby...
Otherwise he takes his fathers nationality...
Which was British at the time of his birth....
Thank you; stating it in the negative (with slightly different emphasis) produces one of the clearest definitions of NBC that I have seen -- and it conveys the founders' reasoning for the NBC requirement.
No one who has one foreign citizen as a parent can meet the above criteria.
Here we go again.
There are only two factors that are considered in determining citizenship at birth.
1. On which country’s soil your born.
2. What was the citizenship of your parents.
If the citizenship of your parents is not the same as the country you were born in, you have a conflict.
You could be a dual citizen and some countries do not recognize dual citizenship.
But if your parents were citizens of the same country you were born in, there is no conflict.
You are naturally a citizen of just that one country.
Now, where do you people think ‘Natural Born Citizenship’ came from?
What could be more simple than this?
That’s it....Do you have the dirct quote. It should be sent to Bret B before he makes a complete fool of himself.
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