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1 posted on 04/30/2012 2:42:03 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
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"The Fort Lauderdale Democrat said he would sponsor a bill that includes the changes, including one that requires a grand jury to determine whether “stand your ground” can be used to avoid prosecution."

'Rats.......

2 posted on 04/30/2012 2:47:29 PM PDT by Paladin2
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If I were the governor I put them in File 13. I guess that’s why I’m not a governor. This is clearly a manufactured crisis that needs no attention.


3 posted on 04/30/2012 2:49:23 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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They will tweak the law just enough where on the surface it looks harmless enough but the minute the law is broken, there will be a federal investigation.


4 posted on 04/30/2012 2:49:32 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Would you rather eat dog food or cat food? Guess it's Romney 2012.)
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The stand your ground law worked perfectly with Zimmerman. If he had not shot Martin, Zimmerman would be dead. If Martin was still alive he should be prosecuted for attempted murder.

No, no changes needed here.


5 posted on 04/30/2012 2:53:27 PM PDT by Any Fate But Submission
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So, the DemocRAT from Broward County took it upon himself to convene a panel of legal experts (lawyers) because of a case that happened in Seminole County, based on??????? Zimmerman has not been proved guilty of anything and the only fact we know about the stand your ground law is since its inception, crime is down.

I hope Gov. Scott ash cans the panel's recommendations.

7 posted on 04/30/2012 3:00:19 PM PDT by liberalh8ter (If Barack has a memory like a steel trap, why can't he remember what the Constitution says?)
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OK. Tweak it. But add a provision that says that the armed security (including police) for state officials and legislators cannot unholster their firearm until the protectee has been shot. That’s “shot” and not “attacked”. If someone wants to go at them with a baseball bat, then they have to run away or just take their beating. If its good enough for the citizenry, it should be good enough for our “leaders”.


8 posted on 04/30/2012 3:06:26 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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Florida Freeper


9 posted on 04/30/2012 3:08:48 PM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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10 posted on 04/30/2012 3:09:01 PM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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The governor should send him a nice form letter, thanking him for his interest in the operation of the government of the state of Florida, and include a “Visit Florida” bumper sticker.

Sometimes the little insults sting so much more.


14 posted on 04/30/2012 3:18:25 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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We’re running out of victims to justify new laws to protect victims.:)


16 posted on 04/30/2012 3:38:19 PM PDT by heshtesh (I believe in Sarah Palin, the rest not so much.)
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This is not the governor's task force,
but a group of busybodies who think they ought to dictate our 2nd amendment rights.

Governor Scott would do well to ignore these clowns.

17 posted on 04/30/2012 3:43:27 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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Sen Chris Smith:

Obama: "If I had a brother, he'd look like Chris."

18 posted on 04/30/2012 3:48:33 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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I don’t see how “Stand your ground” applies here, unless someone is arguing that the law influenced Zimmerman’s thought processes that night. If his story is correct, he pulled his gun after being assaulted, and his self-defense rights are sufficient alone.


20 posted on 04/30/2012 3:50:55 PM PDT by andyk (Go Juan Pablo!)
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In other words, better a hundred crackers be killed by black perps, than a single black perp be killed by a cracker.


21 posted on 04/30/2012 3:50:55 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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Stand Your Ground doesn’t even apply to this case, yet this horse$hit continues on, and on, and on.......


22 posted on 04/30/2012 3:52:04 PM PDT by WackySam (Obama got Osama just like Nixon landed on the moon.)
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Why don’t you try making major changes to the behavior and morality of your people, Mr. Smith, because therein lies the root of the problem.


25 posted on 04/30/2012 4:15:33 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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The major changes they want to make are either repeal it or amend it until it is ineffective. But then again they are not alone. judging by the lynch Zimmerman threads on this forum, they have a lot of company.

They want you to be unable to defend yourself from the criminal element and as evidenced the lynch Zimmerman crowd, so do a lot of members of this forum.

26 posted on 04/30/2012 4:17:16 PM PDT by sport
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Yeh, the first ConCon was to only “update” the AoC, too!

But it ended up a secret Concon w/built-in openings for modification (lately called “flaws”)
leading to our present “situation”!

See, for instance William Buppert’s piece on The God That Failed...

Semper Watching!


31 posted on 04/30/2012 4:52:35 PM PDT by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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“an independent task force created in the wake of the Travyon Martin shooting”

Why order a task force in light of the Martin shooting when we don’t even know what happened? What can that case teach us about Stand Your Ground if Stand Your Ground didn’t apply? If Zimmerman somehow lured Martin into attacking him because of his depraved mind, then it’s 2nd degree murder and Stand Your Ground doesn’t apply. If Martin instigated violence against Zimmerman and Zimmerman only fired after he was pinned and had no escape, then Stand Your Ground doesn’t apply.


33 posted on 04/30/2012 5:03:51 PM PDT by Tublecane
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ALL his recomendations are EXACTLY why we need stand your ground in the first place.

He is exhibit A in all that is wrong with the democrat party.

This report should be circular filed and anyone who signs onto it should be primaried.


34 posted on 04/30/2012 5:07:17 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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