“And any Conservative or Republican who thinks there’s really a significant difference between Romney, Perry, Gingrich and Santorum is DELUSIONAL.”
Well then if your right we had no choices from the first gun. My first choice Michele Bachmann just had no chance from the start because both the establishment hated her and various people for other candidates just brought out the claws against her and the Democrats took the opportunity to join the attacks against her.
It really was a mess of epic porportions. It got worse when She did not try to attack Romney but aimed her fire at other candidates. The Vitriol against her was high. The Palin crowd was never recepetive because for 90% of last year they kept trying to get Palin to run to no avail. To many Palin supporters Bachmann was a threat to Palin, it seemed.
Things just went downhill from there for Bachmann. The idiots in the GOP and the idiots in the Ron Paul campaign colluided to finish her off. By attacking her as fake despite her support about 80% of the Ron Paul and Allen West Fiscakl policy. When she finally took on Ron over his social and foreign policy that was the last nail. Because they really went after her. And a supporter fled to the Ron Paul camp at the last minute.
That and her voting for the Patriot act also affected her stance with some. Along with Perrybots attacking her. And othewrs went after her too. I went blank on what else I was going to add. But I recall an active base atatcking her instead of being for her. many lied that she was their second choice. and then they would say but after such and such....she is done with me.
Well then who else? Before Jim endorsed Gingrich.... many were against him. bachman must have got the hint that people were not happy with him. She starts attacking him and his supporters come out of the woodwork to trash her.
Then you have the catholic factor and Santorum. It got this bad because I was for Santorum for a while. But Santy pulled the strings. For some reasonw hen he was way down the polls and lower than Bachmann and bachmann had actually began increasing her poll numbers nationallly and int he state of Florida and Iowa and New Hampshire by 5% to 10% and hit the 20% mark, Santorum convinced all this backstabbing Catholics to support him and call for her to step out of the race and unite with Santorum. So if anyone, wamts to know how Santorum made it so far, it is because of this underhanded move. Various people looking to endorse bachmann went to Santorum. Social conservative vote then start shifiting towards Santorum.
Now I like the guy and wanted him over Gingrich and Romney. But what oppositon was left after he helped or ratehr did his part in ending not only Bachmann’s campaign but Cain’s.
But they all the candidates staretd infighting within eachother so all are gulity of the same. And oddly enough, so siad some at the time, it was the only person Bachmann did not bash that cost her. She should have gone after romney vigorously. However, Perry did go after Romney and it backfired on him because of his poor debate performances.
So what can one do. I didn’t warm up to Perry because he purposely was trying to steal the voitng base of Bachmann after the Iowa straw poll win because he enetered and took the lead from her.
So as you can see it got so divisive that it bound to end up in the mess we have now.
I am correcting for grammar errors. So re-posting my reply.
“And any Conservative or Republican who thinks there’s really a significant difference between Romney, Perry, Gingrich and Santorum is DELUSIONAL.”
Well then if your right about the candidates who ran as being big government then we had no choices from the first gun.
My first choice Michele Bachmann; just had no chance from the start because both the establishment hated her and various people for other candidates just brought out the claws against her and the democrats took the opportunity to join in the attacks against her.
It really was a mess of epic porportions. It got worse when She did not try to attack Romney but aimed her fire at other candidates. The vitriol against her was high. The Palin crowd was never receptive to her because for 90% of last year they kept trying to get Palin to run to no avail. To many Palin supporters Bachmann was a threat to Palin, it seemed.
Things just went downhill from there for Bachmann. The idiots in the GOP and the idiots in the Ron Paul campaign colluided to finish her off. By attacking her as a fake fiscal republican despite her support for 80% of the Ron Paul and the Allen West fiscal policy.
When she finally took on Ron over his social and foreign policy stances that was one of the final nails in her campaign. And that was because the Paulbots then really went after her with a 24/7 campaign, of their own, to end her bid. And then a supporter fled to the Ron Paul camp at the last minute before the Iowa Caucuses.
That and her voting for the Patriot act also affected her stance with some and I was forced into defending it. It was all in how you viewed the act or bill what you thought about it. For people on this site they became heavily libertarian when it came to the legislations renewal saying that under Obama civil libertires would be curtailed. But Bachmann voted for it to keep a strong national defense against terrorism and to keep stopping further attacks.But Allen West, who became increasingly against the Patriot Act, was at odds with Bachmann and people were siding with him.
Then add the fact the Perrybots attacked her. And others went after her too. I recall an active base atatcking her instead of being for her. Many lied that she was their second choice. and then they would say but after such and such....she is done with me.
Well then who else? Who else that actually run was better than Michele Bachmann?
Before Jim endorsed Gingrich.... many were against him. It is why nobody was trying to unite the site for him until after Jim’s endorsement. In fact Jim has trouble with him as well at the time. Well Bachman must have got the hint that people were not happy with Gingrich, but she never not the memeo that it had changed by the fall. Because she starts attacking him, whith most of what we know about him now, and his supporters come out of the woodwork to trash her and Glenn Beck who also was opposed to him.
Then you have the catholic factor and Rick Santorum. It got this bad because I was for Santorum for a while. But Santy pulled the strings to win Iowa. For some reason when he was way down the polls and lower than Bachmann and Bachmann had actually began increasing her poll numbers nationallly and in the states of Florida, Iowa and New Hampshire by 5% to 10% and hit the 20% mark in Iowa, Santorum convinced some backstabbing Catholic leaders to support him and call for her to step out of the race and unite with Santorum. So if anyone, wants to know how Santorum made it so far, it is because of this underhanded move. It started his rise up the polls. Various people looking to endorse Bachmann went to Santorum. The social conservative vote then started shifiting towards Santorum.
Now I liked Rick Santorum and wanted him over Gingrich and Romney. But what was left in the race to support after he helped or rather did his part in ending not only Bachmann’s campaign but Cain’s.
But then all the candidates started infighting with each other so all are gulity of the same thing. And oddly enough, so said some at the time, it was the only person Bachmann did not bash that cost her. She should have gone after Romney vigorously. However, Perry did go after Romney and it backfired on him because of his poor debate performances.
So what can one do. I didn’t warm up to Perry because he purposely was trying to steal the voitng base of Bachmann after the Iowa straw poll win because he enetered and took the lead from her.
Every candidate that ran had their conservative, tea party detractors who vigorusuly attacked the candidate.
So as you can see it got so divisive that it was bound to end up in the mess we have now.