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To: hocndoc; Jim Robinson; wagglebee
BS.

What got Mariner the boot was his attack on another poster:

"I saved my husband from that kind of death."

No, you tortured him for the extra days, weeks or months that he survived under intense...and futile...medical care.

The rest of your ridiculous accusation deserves no response.

Nonetheless, people are dying prematurely every day in hospice and palliative care due to withdrawal of hydration, masked by terminal sedation.

The terminal sedation is excused as "pain control" in numerous patients who never voiced any concern of pain.

I'm sorry if this pricks yuour conscience, but stop trying to deflect from the reality of what is going on every day in end of life care, Doctor.

102 posted on 04/30/2012 8:09:33 AM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp; surroundedbyblue; trisham

Please read post 65 before telling me that I wrote is “B.S.”

BTW, my conscience is clear and I’ve written what I’ve written without implying that I know anyone else’s mind. The argument is not with your intentions or conscience, but with the issue.

If I were to guess, however, I would assume that Mariner has a painful memory.

Also, did you see that my response th Alta Charo’s op ed was posted on the New England Journal website?


112 posted on 04/30/2012 8:58:06 AM PDT by hocndoc (WingRight.org Have mustard seed, not afraid to use it. Hold R's to promises, don't watch O keep his.)
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp

>The terminal sedation is excused as “pain control” in numerous patients who never voiced any concern of pain<

Again I couldn’t disagree more. Being in the field in pts homes, doing the evaluations, ordering medications as needed, being at the bedside, something that drs don’t do, I have never, nor have I ever seen or heard of anyone giving pain medication to someone who is not in pain.


117 posted on 04/30/2012 9:31:54 AM PDT by Lil Flower (American by birth. Southern by the Grace of God! ROLL TIDE!!)
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