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New Secret Service rules on alcohol, unsavory bars
http://news.yahoo.com/secret-rules-alcohol-unsavory-bars-233826181.html ^ | 4/27/12 | ALICIA A. CALDWELL, LAURIE KELLMAN

Posted on 04/27/2012 5:27:01 PM PDT by Libloather

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To: Libloather

Just how is a Secret Service Agent supposed to know what an unsavory bar looks like, or how much alcohol is an excess for that particular individual? Somebody will get a multi-million dollar Federal contract to conduct training.


21 posted on 04/27/2012 6:20:27 PM PDT by Pilsner
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To: sergeantdave

We had a 12 hour no alcohol before going into the detention center at GTMO.

What is the flight rules, no alcohol within 100 feet of the plane and no smoking 12 hours before flight?


22 posted on 04/27/2012 6:21:24 PM PDT by occamrzr06
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To: Libloather

I see. They make new rules when the problem was that they didn’t follow the old rules. Makes sense???


23 posted on 04/27/2012 6:58:50 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: knarf

The “Off-Limits” lists were always good bar guides when I was in the service. Especially handy when assigned to a new base.


24 posted on 04/27/2012 7:01:19 PM PDT by 386wt
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To: xrmusn
Those chaperones are usually called commissars.

Also called "minders".

25 posted on 04/27/2012 7:23:24 PM PDT by Rapscallion (For English press "3", or "4". Whatever.)
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To: knarf

I used to hit twenty or thirty “unsavory bars” a night, one night in six...

Shore patrol in Olongopo City, Subic Bay, the Philippines. We lieutenants of the visiting Marine Battalion Landing Team accompanied the regular Navy Shore Patrol on their rounds to keep an eye on our troops. It was a good idea. Kept our guys from giving the Navy SP to much trouble.

Three blocks outside the gate, both sides.

PT Barnum would have loved it. What a circus/zoo.

Always said that this was one place just waiting for the wrath of God.

Sure enough, 15 years later Mt Pinatubo dumped several feet of ash on Olongapo.

Me? I spent my liberty at the base gokart track. I figured that was the best way to stay out of trouble. As I look back 35 or so years later, it was a wise decision.


26 posted on 04/27/2012 7:39:09 PM PDT by BwanaNdege (Man has often lost his way, but modern man has lost his address - Gilbert K. Chesterton)
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To: Libloather

I would think that any bar with Hillary, the Food Stamp President or any of the administration would be deemed to be unsavory!


27 posted on 04/27/2012 7:40:12 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (There's a pill for just about everything ... except stupid!)
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To: Libloather

Glad to see the SS is tightening up. Heck, in aviation we went to 8 hrs from bottle to throttle instead of 8 feet years ago!


28 posted on 04/27/2012 7:45:58 PM PDT by ebshumidors ( Marksmanship and YOUR heritage http://www.appleseedinfo.org)
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To: muawiyah

I want the job as their GS15 chaperone! :)


29 posted on 04/27/2012 8:29:38 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Libloather

“Hey, brown sugar jus wake me up at 4am for your American Green. I be on duty tomorro”


30 posted on 04/27/2012 8:43:04 PM PDT by Noob1999 (Loose Lips, Sink Ships)
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To: Future Snake Eater
Yes, but they are tasked with advance work and that is (including) counterintelligence, countersurveillance, discussion of the local protection environment, grasp of known cells and threats, and cooperation with the local agencies either US Embassy or local government. I can also imagine the SS at a G-20 summit. 90% of the protective guys off duty from various countries, minus Arab states maybe, will be going out for a beer to bond in a friendly country, discuss cooperation, etc. but the US guys just might have to whine down to the front desk/lobby "sorry, we might not be able to attend tonight, as we can't just seem to find our CHAPERONE." (LOL).

Also, anyone wanna guess this "chaperone" is going to look like Janet Reno, Janet Napolitano or Sandra Fluke?

31 posted on 04/27/2012 8:43:45 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Study closely socialist Hugo Chavez' usage of 'popular masses' in the streets to thwart 1992 coup)
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To: Libloather

Closing the barn door after the horses have already escaped.


32 posted on 04/27/2012 8:44:07 PM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: sergeantdave
I can hit the bimbo bars from 4 pm until 10 pm, get drunk on my azz and report for duty at 8am.

"As long as I get 1 hour of sleep.......*snap fingers* I'm cool."

33 posted on 04/27/2012 8:46:36 PM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: Libloather

Years ago when I was in the Navy and stationed in the Philippines, the first places we’d go were the bars designated “off limits.” Great places, great cold beer, great hot women!


34 posted on 04/27/2012 8:53:07 PM PDT by Rembrandt (Part of the 52% who pay Federal taxes)
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To: dfwgator
LOL. This whole thing will flop, like the jack*ss idea of kids on milk cartons, scaring the hell out of other kids all over America (Mommy, am *I* going to get kidnapped and killed by a bad man like that boy on the Borden's milk pack?"), or aspirin bottles that no way can an 85-year-old with arthritis living alone get opened. Stupid solutions borne out of stupid ideas and reasoning.

Hey, what if an SS agent is "gay" or "lesbian", and openly goes to a local "gay bar" off-hours. If that was considered by his chaperone later as a "disreputable establishment", could not the USG become the defendent in a sexual orientation discrimination suit? Oh, I am sure the White House would overlook THOSE kinds of outings (extra curricular activities).

35 posted on 04/27/2012 8:54:27 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Study closely socialist Hugo Chavez' usage of 'popular masses' in the streets to thwart 1992 coup)
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To: Libloather
Secret Service director, Mark Sullivan said the rules "cannot address every situation that our employees will face as we execute our dual-missions throughout the world." He added: "The absence of a specific, published standard of conduct covering an act or behavior does not mean that the act is condoned, is permissible, or will not call for — and result in — corrective or disciplinary action."


36 posted on 04/27/2012 9:46:54 PM PDT by Talisker (He who commands, must obey.)
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To: Rembrandt
"Years ago when I was in the Navy and stationed in the Philippines, the first places we’d go were the bars designated “off limits.”"

Really? I was in Subic numerous times in the mid 70's-80's and never heard of an "off limits" bar. Remember Jolo's at the end of Masaysay, and another one to the left on the cross street? Some pretty nasty stuff - think stacks of coins. Double bullets were your friends before arriving home, har. Great times.

37 posted on 04/28/2012 8:26:38 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath Is Forever)
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To: A Navy Vet

“”Years ago when I was in the Navy and stationed in the Philippines, the first places we’d go were the bars designated “off limits.””

Really? I was in Subic numerous times in the mid 70’s-80’s and never heard of an “off limits” bar. Remember Jolo’s at the end of Masaysay, and another one to the left on the cross street? Some pretty nasty stuff - think stacks of coins. Double bullets were your friends before arriving home, har. Great times.

Well, that’s all good and I’m happy that things were so rosy when you were in the PI.

I was in the PI from 1968 - 1970. There were typically three off-limits bars including the Top Three and the East End..I forget the other one.


38 posted on 04/28/2012 8:16:14 PM PDT by Rembrandt (Part of the 52% who pay Federal taxes)
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To: Rembrandt
- think stacks of coins.

hehehehehe....that brought back memories with images...thank you!

39 posted on 04/28/2012 8:24:47 PM PDT by IrishPennant (Are you behind a "Blade of Grass?")
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To: Rembrandt

I was at Clark AB, 1961-62. There were a few Off Limits joints in Angeles, and they were Off Limits for a reason. If you went in some of these dives, you might not come back out. Spent some off-duty time in Angeles, just for a change of scenery. That was an interesting ride from Angeles to Olongapo and back on the Philippine Rabbit.


40 posted on 04/28/2012 8:26:53 PM PDT by Ax
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