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To: Gaffer
Small towns, rural areas are certainly not unaccustomed to protecting themselves.

Note that i specifically mentioned suburban, not rural. In the rural areas the mobs wouldn't last five minutes. In the inner city they will be unchallenged. It is in the yuppy suburbs that the battle will be fought. And trying to convince my neighbors of that fact has convinced me that the majority are simply not ready for what is going to fall on them. I live there, I know.

These are the people who not only won't put in their own gardens, or make any preparation to feed themselves in an emergency, but will call the village on you if your garden is visible from the street. We had an extended power outage last year and there were only about a dozen houses in our subdivision that had generators. And two of those hadn't been stored properly and wouldn't start.

At a recent block party the subject of firearms came up. A little under half owned them. Another quarter were thinking it might be a good idea to get one. The final quarter were in whining histrionics about the idea of bringing firearms into their neighborhood. However of those that had firearms most were pistols. Fine for self and home defense, not sufficient for stopping a rampaging mob. It is illegal to own an assault rifle in Illinois so it doesn't get talked about in public. But I suspect that there may be at least a few in the subdivision. There will also be a few deer rifles to supplement those.

You might be able to mount a defense with the weapons available. But then you run into the biggest problem, attitude. The simple fact is that the people in my neighborhood I would most want around in a total SHTF situation are the ones I also know have bugout locations already set up. I do. It is not that we won't stand. It is just that Cook county Illinois is not where I would choose to make a last stand.
32 posted on 04/27/2012 9:25:07 AM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: GonzoGOP

Depends on the suburbs you are referencing. Most I have lived in the majority are well armed with not only handguns and rifles, but possess what the MSM would label “assault weapons”.

In my current suburb in California, the demographics would closely mirror your example, and I would be one of those who would bug out to a more defensible position if it came down to it, but even in my current situation it would take a significant amount of firepower to take me out.

Those suburbanites who aren’t prepared only have themselves to blame and if they survive they will learn a valuable lesson.


35 posted on 04/27/2012 10:07:10 AM PDT by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: GonzoGOP

“It is illegal to own an assault rifle in Illinois”

Umm...that’s news to me! Granted, I think it’s illegal to possess an “assault rifle” in Cook County, but I suspect that’s one of the most ignored laws on the books. I see AKs, ARs, FALs etc. for sale all the time at Illinois shows.

“so it doesn’t get talked about in public.”

I have a simple rule: unless I’m with people I trust and consider “safe”, I don’t tell people that I own firearms. The long case I’m carrying over my shoulder out to the car is “optical equipment I’m working on for a friend”.


37 posted on 04/27/2012 10:30:13 AM PDT by M1903A1 ("We shed all that is good and virtuous for that which is shoddy and sleazy... and call it progress")
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To: GonzoGOP
It is illegal to own an assault rifle in Illinois

Bullcrap. Maybe in Crook County, but not in Illinois. I can assure you that in my little area of DuPage County gun safes are bulging with AR-15's, AK clones, M1A rifles, etc.

41 posted on 04/27/2012 10:49:41 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: GonzoGOP
It is in the yuppy suburbs that the battle will be fought. And trying to convince my neighbors of that fact has convinced me that the majority are simply not ready for what is going to fall on them. I live there, I know.

I live there too FRiend. A few of my suburban neighbors are of Asian descent and they are just as well armed as I am. The rest are about 30% armed, 70% no...but 30% is more than enough IMO. There is a 6 week wait for a decent slot at the closest range. I think you would be surprised as how well the suburbs are armed, but its not neighborhood-type conversation. And if I ever get a call from a "pollster" asking me how many guns I own the answer would be "none".
44 posted on 04/27/2012 11:07:57 AM PDT by kevcol
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