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To: Longbow1969
So-called "winning" by compromising on every single issue of importance to us? Are you serious? Anti pro-life, and support for homosexual marriage, nationalized health care, willing to compromise on the 2nd Amendment, etc., etc., etc.

I absolutely refuse to vote for the lesser of two evils and will not. Primarily because with Romney as the head of the GOP ticket, we will likely end up with the evil of the two evils. I'd rather work for, vote for, and support those candidates that support my values, my beliefs, and our freedoms who are running for US Congress and US Senate, and state offices.

106 posted on 04/25/2012 8:29:24 PM PDT by vox_freedom (America is being tested as never before in its history. May God help us.)
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To: vox_freedom
I will take them one at a time.

Pro-Life - Romney will have no effect one way or the other, just like Reagan, and both Bushes. Like the other three before, he will talk a good game, but no bill on the issue will ever bear his signature. The true hero of the Pro-life movement was not any activists or politician, but the sonogram. The sonogram is what has changed a majority pro-choice nation to pro-life.

Gay marriage - we are doomed there. The good news is it will be widespread when most of us are dead. Talk to the under-30 crowd, its popular. The indoctrination worked, they are just waiting for us older folk to take our dirt naps. No one was going to stop this one, and I hate it, but its reality.

Nationalized health care- I take him at his word, he will repeal it. But we got to help by winning the Senate also.

2nd Amendment - We won this one on a Federal level. game over, pour the champagne. Obama is scared s***less on this one. He even signed a bill to let people carry heaters in national parks and on trains. The battleground is in the few anti-gun states. Including mine, dammit. If Obama will not touch this with a ten foot pole, then Romney's pole will be 30 feet long. Nothing to worry about.

116 posted on 04/25/2012 8:45:10 PM PDT by gusty
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To: vox_freedom
So-called "winning" by compromising on every single issue of importance to us?

Up to you, but the very fact that we are constituency within a political party means we don't and won't have to compromise on EVERY issue of importance. Willard is not a conservative and a poor nominee in my opinion, but people are exaggerating to the extreme when they claim he'd govern like Obama. He simply can't. Romney couldn't be the same liberal as President as he was in Massachusetts even if he wanted to be. He answers to a different constituency now - nationally, a much more conservative constituency.

I absolutely refuse to vote for the lesser of two evils and will not. Primarily because with Romney as the head of the GOP ticket, we will likely end up with the evil of the two evils.

I don't really care what you do. You may feel it necessary to sit out this cycle, just like some felt the same about McCain. In the end it makes very little difference. In a 2 party system the vast majority of the voters are going turn out for one of the 2 party's. If our nominee were an actual conservative, you'd have some of the mushy moderate types insisting they will sit out or vote 3rd party. We get this every election cycle and it doesn't amount to a hill of beans. You can stamp your feet, howl at the moon, send angry letters the RNC, it really won't matter. If conservatives stay active and UNIFIED, we can make a difference and perhaps nominate a good candidate next time around. If we are divided, even the proportionally higher conservative turnout in primaries is diluted between multiple candidates which allows the establishment's choice a nice clean path to the nomination. I mean, this just happened 2 election cycles in a row. It should be obvious to all conservatives that it is really important to UNIFY and find a consensus conservative candidate in the primaries early on - but I doubt we will succeed again in 2016 or 2020.

Also screaming and wailing about the system doesn't really help. If you angrily announce to the GOP that you won't vote for their nominee, then you become essentially useless to them and they simply pay less attention to you than before. They know most will come crawling back anyway, because in our system there simply isn't anywhere else to go if you really want to at least make some difference.

118 posted on 04/25/2012 8:49:21 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: vox_freedom

The GOP is dead.

They consistently work with Dems/MSM against Conservative candidates and our issues, any Conservative who continues to support them at this late date, has simply refused to face it.

The GOP campaigns AGAINST Conservatives in elections and even more importantly, trashes Conservative legislation to the American people we are trying to reach.

They marginalize us, and undermine us in the press.

They are embarrassed by Conservatives, and in many cases hate us.

Romney and the RNC will destroy Conservatives in the House and Senate.


133 posted on 04/25/2012 9:06:28 PM PDT by roses of sharon ("Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise." Luke 23:43)
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