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To: brityank
"That's not possible," wrote a lead ATF official in Mexico. "We are forbidden from doing that type of activity. If ICE is telling you they can do that, they are full of [expletive]..."

Walking contraband is against ICE policy. I can't believe any moron would allow any contraband, especially guns or grenades walk. ATF is letting guns walk so it doesn't take much imagination to think they are doing the same with grenades.

I think one of the mindsets that might have been warped into these kinds of investigations is a U.S. Attorney's office that doesn't take cases less than 500 lb. of dope. The result being that agent's are looking for the big score that will actually be prosecuted.

11 posted on 04/25/2012 3:37:54 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: USNBandit

The drug cartels control the coyotes that smuggle illegals across to border. The cartels got weapons, Obama got new voters.


12 posted on 04/25/2012 3:44:29 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: USNBandit

I don’t understand this story.

If I am not prohibited I can have as much ammunition as I want (assuming I don’t violate local laws/codes). Grenade hulls with spent or used fuze casings are not illegal either. I can buy 1, 5, 100, 1000, or 10,000 of them. I see them at surplus stores all the time and you can order them on the internet. I just searched and they are not regulated at all. No different than a box of screws.

I think the State Department controls the export of firearms (these are not firearms - they are legal to own parts). If they could not prove that this man was prohibited from possessing ammunition he committed no crime. If they could prove he intended to reassemble the parts into remanufactured grenades in Mexico the crime would occur in Mexico. Maybe they could prosecute him under laws governing the exportation of firearms or destructive devices if they could prove that was his intent but that falls under exportation laws and the State Department - not firearms laws?

As I understand it, I can possess all the parts of a grenade and it’s only illegal if I remanufacture the grenade using powder and a means of initiation. If grenade parts are illegal why do they sell them everywhere? I can buy as much powder and as many primers as I want too.

I can own machinegun parts kits and it’s not illegal. I can own 1, 1000, 10000 of them (I wish). I am not violating the law and I am actually sitting on a nice investment since they can’t be imported anymore. Is’nt it the same thing?

I really don’t understand this story. As far as I know, the only laws a U.S. Citizen can be prosecuted for that occur outside the United States are the sex travel act, espionage, and hiding money from Uncle Sam. There may be some others that I don’t remember. However, I don’t think our gun laws are enforceable in another country.

I might need to start a paperweight collection soon!


22 posted on 04/25/2012 8:02:28 PM PDT by volunbeer (Don't worry America, our kids can pay for it!)
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