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To: EternalVigilance

While I oppose gay marriage, there are some things that are more important, like protecting this nation from its foreign enemies and saving it from socialism. Gay marriage is far down the list.


23 posted on 04/24/2012 3:30:55 PM PDT by Parmenio
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To: Parmenio
While I oppose gay marriage, there are some things that are more important, like protecting this nation from its foreign enemies and saving it from socialism. Gay marriage is far down the list.

Well, you wouldn't think so if you realized that homosexual practices are the sorts of things for which God turns nations over to their enemies, to those who destroy them economically and physically.

Or, to put it in another way, that in the natural course of things that it is the destruction of families and personal morals that makes nations collapse economically, and makes them easy targets for external enemies.

"God who gave us life gave us liberty. Can the liberties of a nation be secure when we have removed a conviction that these liberties are the gift of God? Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just, that his justice cannot sleep forever."

-- Thomas Jefferson

Without its moral basis, this republic cannot stand.

"We are firmly convinced, and we act on that conviction, that with nations as with individuals our interests soundly calculated will ever be found inseparable from our moral duties..."

-- Thomas Jefferson

"Without morals a republic cannot subsist any length of time...They therefore who are decrying the Christian religion, whose morality is so sublime and pure and which insures to the good eternal happiness, are undermining the solid foundation of morals, the best security for the duration of free governments."

-- Charles Carroll, U.S. Senator and signer of the Declaration of Independence

"[D]emocracy will soon degenerate into an anarchy, such an anarchy that every man will do what is right in his own eyes and no man's life or property or reputation or liberty will be secure, and every one of these will soon mould itself into a system of subordination of all the moral virtues and intellectual abilities, all the powers of wealth, beauty, wit and science, to the wanton pleasures, the capricious will, and the execrable cruelty of one or a very few."

-- John Adams, An Essay on Man's Lust for Power, 1763

“Of all the dispositions and habits, which lead to political prosperity, Religion and Morality are indispensable supports. In vain would that man claim the tribute of Patriotism, who should labor to subvert these great pillars of human happiness, these firmest props of the duties of Men and Citizens.”

-- George Washington

"Peace, prosperity, liberty and morals have an intimate connection."

-- Thomas Jefferson to George Logan, 1813


31 posted on 04/24/2012 3:52:03 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ('A man with God is always in the majority.' -- John Knox)
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To: Parmenio; EternalVigilance
Gay marriage is far down the list.

Yeah. It's only an existential threat to the family and 7000 years of civilization.

After the movement gays get through queering marriage, what are we going to do for "families"? There will be no "families", or nothing we can recognize as such. Which is their entire purpose -- they've said so.

States and civilizations blithely break their bonds with their patrimonies at their mortal peril. That's because people who "rise above" the disciplines of civilization, are no longer capable of sustaining it in any meaningful way.

35 posted on 04/24/2012 3:58:53 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Parmenio

By virtue of their lifestyles and accompanying behavior, they demonstrate extremely POOR judgement. For that reason, I do not want them making any decisions that will effect me or mine OR my country. Sorry, reality is a beach.


47 posted on 04/24/2012 4:14:46 PM PDT by gidget7 ("When a man assumes a public trust, he should consider himself as public property." Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Parmenio
While I oppose gay marriage, there are some things that are more important, like protecting this nation from its foreign enemies and saving it from socialism. Gay marriage is far down the list.

Sure, 'cause stuff like undermining the very bedrock foundation of the country's social structure isn't going to do any harm at all or anything.

58 posted on 04/24/2012 7:38:29 PM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (Anybody but Obama and Romney)
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To: Parmenio

“While I oppose gay marriage, there are some things that are more important, like protecting this nation from its foreign enemies and saving it from socialism. Gay marriage is far down the list.”

Parmenio was Alexander’s most important general, no? Interesting connection there, regarding the whole gay thing.

I wonder if being kind to and tolerant of others who do you no harm is also far down the list.


76 posted on 04/25/2012 4:54:15 AM PDT by Skylab
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