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1 posted on 04/24/2012 5:27:50 AM PDT by TurboZamboni
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Up until the government getting involved, the industry managed and people had coverage.


2 posted on 04/24/2012 5:36:38 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Solyent Pink is Sheeple!!!!)
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I’d really like to see health care separated from the employee/employer relationship. You know, like car insurance is.

Duh...


3 posted on 04/24/2012 5:37:59 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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I am skeptical of Anything written by the Associated Press.


4 posted on 04/24/2012 5:39:53 AM PDT by radioone
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I frankly don’t think people are going to be any more receptive to their employer or insurance company “nudging” them on their personal habits than they were about Barry and Moochelle trying to do it.


10 posted on 04/24/2012 6:13:21 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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Business can't and won't take care of America's 50 million uninsured

Why should they? The only reason they started offering health care was because of the wage freeze. They couldn't offer the best employees more money, so they offered them a benefit instead to get around the busybody politicians. It wasn't suppose to be for everyone.

Businesses aren't responsible for health care. Insurance companies are, and that's only for those who pay their premiums. Heath care is not a right. It's a privilege for those willing to work to buy it.

All the propaganda about health care being a "right" is nothing but a bold face lie passed around by the Washington control freaks who want to protect their own life of power and privilege at other peoples expense.

If you want health care - get a job and buy it yourself. No man should be used as another mans slave!

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11 posted on 04/24/2012 6:15:07 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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This will be the left’s defense of Obamacare, and their attempt to change public opinion. They'll say, ‘It's not perfect, but it's a lot better than if you throw yourself at the mercy of the companies and the insurers’.

Like all drivel and crap that comes from the left, we have to have ready responses to counter them.

Now is the time to put together alternative plans for how to handle health care issues in the US. Health care costs have to come down (I say this as a doc), but this has to happen in a manner that doesn't interfere with patient choice, physician autonomy in decision making, and the development of new therapies and technologies. That said, in my opinion there is no good ‘one size fits all’ solution. This is going to require a multi-layered approach that includes patient incentives.

15 posted on 04/24/2012 6:23:47 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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The prime movers in socialized health care have been large companies. They don't want to pay for health care, and this is a way they can dump the cost.

It is another hidden incentive to not do business in the US. My parent company built a plant overseas because of the high taxes and high benefit costs in the US. They built it in France rather than in the Midwest.

If the law gets struck down, you will see a lot of companies lobbying to have true socialized health care.

17 posted on 04/24/2012 6:25:49 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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“and push harder to cut costs”

The only solution. The medical industry always pushes to increase their income. Employer-provided insurance has resulted in “that cost is crazy but I don’t have to pay it so I’ll give it no further thought”.

Those of that need health care services and products, which is all of us, have been like frogs in the pan as the water is slowly heated. Now it’s pretty hot, huh?

The pressure to cut costs will cause the medical industry to scream. It’s like hammering iron into a new shape. You heat it red hot. Smells are emitted, a few sparks fly, you pound it, the ignorant ones think the chunk is being destroyed. But ultimately it’s given the new shape, it cools off, and everything is fine.

We users of healthcare services and products will have to accept cutbacks as well.


30 posted on 04/24/2012 7:14:37 AM PDT by cymbeline
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This sounds like the propaganda that comes from the left to make government look good in what they do—all things to all people..bigger government is not the answer..unless you want to lose more freedom.


31 posted on 04/24/2012 7:19:27 AM PDT by rxtn41
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