Look, the politics here are liberal and terrible.
But do note, as you all complain of how horrible Californians are and how you don’t want us ruining your state, that there are MORE solid conservatives here than in your state. CA started Free Republic and CA donates more than most states. There are great people here too.
Lots of solid conservatives without balls compared to the majority of liberals that have balls. Complacency (”I’m doing OK”) is our downfall. No organization to rid the cancer of liberalism and fraud.
Enjoyed the conversation...have a 10AM tee time. Gotta go.
I never said Californians are terrible.
I have friends there.(I’m in MN) I know that. Met nice folks there on vacation last month in Sonoma County.
Being from MN, I know our reputation isn’t for attracting the best and brightest either. In fact, when CA leftard legislators think up a dumb law, we’re usually the next state to try to replicate it.
“Look, the politics here are liberal and terrible.
But do note, as you all complain of how horrible Californians are and how you don’t want us ruining your state, that there are MORE solid conservatives here than in your state.”
I think I commented about this once before, to you, in another thread about a similar subject, some months ago.
It doesn’t matter that there are more “solid conservatives” in California than there are in, say, Montana.
It doesn’t matter how many conservatives are in California.
Not at all.
Because as conservatives you are totally outnumbered by liberals who are never again going to give you a voice in how the state is governed.
The state’s demographics (and the resultant political atmosphere that is a product of those demographics) have toppled over so far to the left, that they can NEVER be “righted” again. Even a total economic collapse, accompanied by civil unrest and/or outright chaos, will not provide a vector by which common sense can be restored to California (aside: if anything, the “solutions” to such a crisis will be even crazier). Conservatism as a force in state government is all-but dead there, and will not be revived.
That doesn’t mean you can’t enjoy a life there, with the great weather, etc., etc. Of course you can, provided you have enough reserves stashed away so that the left can’t bleed you completely dry.
What it DOES mean is that as a conservative Californian, by remaining there you are tacitly acceding to being “ruled by the left”. Because whatever political voice you may have (both individually and as a member of a political party) will never be heard over the din of the “majority”. That’s the way it’s going to be, even as the state drives off the cliff just like Thelma and Louise.
But even as they plunge downward towards the crevice at the bottom, the leftist majority is going to be blaming YOU — conservatives, the evil Republicans, the evil and greedy corporations, and the environment destroyers — for the crash that they’re facing!
By the way, I see that reality, too. I’m in Connecticut, which has degenerated from “The Land of Steady Habits” into “Massachusetts south”. I’ll go to the Republican primary tomorrow and vote for Newt, knowing that my vote (except for certain local candidates) is essentially worthless here. It doesn’t matter which national/statewide candidate I support or vote for, he/she is going to lose. If I decide to vote for Romney in November or refuse to support him because he’s an untrustworthy RINO, it STILL doesn’t matter, because he’s going to lose here anyway. For all practical purposes, so long as I remain a resident of this state, my vote doesn’t count for much.
There’s only one way my vote as a conservative individual can ever be made to “count for something” again — and that’s to GET OUT of Connecticut to somewhere where folks like myself may still have a voice that can influence matters. As a recent retiree, I’m in the planning stages of doing that right now.
So.... enjoy life out there in the Golden State. When I was there (early 80’s), it was indeed beautiful.
But that enjoyment must be tempered with the knowledge that it comes with a price.
Like it or not, California conservatives are going to be paying it ‘till the bitter end....