Posted on 04/23/2012 4:47:09 AM PDT by SJackson
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That was my take on this subject.
Why go down this road? -Tom
I'll say more later.
I'll say more later, Inshallah.
Should be an interesting book.
Yes, you raise a valid point, but it is not “this supudiety again.” Just because Jesus is not established as a historical figure, except perhaps by Flavius Josephus, does not mean that we should not be demanding of evidence about Muhammad.
Disclosure: I accept that Jesus existed in part because of how consistent the account of his life harmonizes with the writings of the Prophets, who were many people who wrote over a span of many centuries and whose works were preserved in an integrated collection.
No. Next question.
Mohammad doesn’t exist, never existed, and never will exist You blaspheme every religion by repeating the lie that Mohammad ever existed.
Mohammad is as fictional as Santa Claus.
STOP PERPETUATING THE LIE THAT MOHAMMAD EVER EXISTED!!!
We worship, as our Lord and Savior, the Aunt Jemimah character from the 1800's and early 1900's.
Meet our Lord and Savior:
Does Satan exist, does evil exist?
Jemima is a false prophet.
Rastus (the Cream of Wheat chef dude) is the true messenger of God.
Those who follow Jemima must convert to Rastus or be put to death!
And what is your proof he did not exist? - Tom
One reason cited by historians is the decline of Byzantium’s control of land trade routes and peripheral territories. This allowed the sea traders on the Arabian Peninsula to exert more and more control over trade and to accumulate wealth until they could afford to finance conquering armies to capture the Middle East and North Africa.
Don’t buy it.
Merchants that become more successful do not generally morph into conquering armies. At least I can’t think of any examples. They expand their merchant activities, instead. Merchants are more likely to turn warlike when their trading activities are blocked.
IMO the Roman and Persian Empires had fought each other into a comprehensive state of utter exhaustion, something like some claim would have happened had we stayed out of WWII and allowed the Nazis and Soviets to destroy each other. (I’m not one of these people.)
So I think there is no question there was a major power vacuum in the Middle East. The question is why the Arabs, who had absolutely no tradition of conquest, suddenly became conquerors for a century. And then stopped again.
Again, IMO, the answer is the power of a new religious idea that fitted exactly into the pre-existing ideas of the Arabs.
Also, look at ALL THE PHONE BOOKS from that era. NO MOHAMMAD!!!!
Check any records you want. No Visa, Mastercard, or American Express records. No hotel receipts. Not even any donations to Salvation Army.
MOHAMMAD IS A FRAUD!
1) The Eastern Roman ("Byzantine") Empire to the west of Arabia and the Persian Empire to the east had been ferociously beating each other up for a long time, Persians capturing Jerusalem for example in 618 and 632. So both were militarily exhausted.
2) The huge plagues that also weakened the forces that were thus unable to counteract the Arabs.
Therefore, Islam is really more like an opportunistic weed. It makes sense, once you think about it, to back-invent a "cause" for this unexpected military success, and why not a mythical "prophet" to "inspire" them?
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