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To: Kenny Bunk; DiogenesLamp

If it was just the birth certificate documents being looked at, and NOT the social security number and the selective service registration...

I guess it boils down to this question:

How does somebody that was adopted via a “closed” adoption prove whether or not they are a natural born citizen?
Do they go get a court order to unlock the info?
Then go and research their biological parents’ citizenship?

What if nobody can find the documentation?

If the adoptive parents were staunch Constitutionalist conservatives, would that avoid foreign entanglements?

Not apologizing in any way here, just looking a possible real world situation on just the birth record.


150 posted on 04/24/2012 1:57:17 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: WildHighlander57
If it was just the birth certificate documents being looked at, and NOT the social security number and the selective service registration...

I have mentioned many times that I make no claims regarding whether or not his social security number or selective service application was forged. I HAVE pointed out that THOSE documents are under the control of the FEDERAL government, and Obama has complete control of that.

His Birthcertificate is not. It is under the control of HAWAII's Governmental officials, and he cannot simply order them to do this or that. He has to work with them in such a way that they have no concerns about going to jail.

I guess it boils down to this question:

How does somebody that was adopted via a “closed” adoption prove whether or not they are a natural born citizen?

By getting the records unsealed. It is doable, it's just very uncommon. I personally think that Obama's original record in Hawaii won't likely prove he was born in Hawaii, and therefore are no help to him.

Do they go get a court order to unlock the info?

Yes, exactly right.

It is axiomatic to me that Obama was adopted by Lolo Soetoro in 1965, and then had his adoption annulled or was readopted by his grandparents in 1971. They kept him for 8 years, for crying out loud! They certainly had to have SOME sort of legal papers regarding him.

152 posted on 04/24/2012 6:14:00 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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