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The Fallacy Of Bugging Out – Are You Prepared To Be A Refugee?
SHTF Plan ^ | 4-19-2012 | Survival Acres

Posted on 04/19/2012 4:44:54 PM PDT by blam

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To: tickedoffnow

My plan is to get to know my neighbors and organize.

Depending on the scale of the crisis I would organize my nearest neighbors, then the block, then the surrounding 100 or so blocks, and so on. I would call community meetings to elect emergency reps/leaders, organize security, provide food for the hungry, send trucks out to trade for food in the country if needed, etc. Business owners would rapidly organize to protect their property. I’m sure employees of those businesses have a stake in their futures as well.

We are Americans! We will not hide in our homes as one neighbor after another is attacked by mobs. Law and order would be restored pretty quickly (well, maybe not in NOLA).

OMG, I am turning into a Community Organizer.


41 posted on 04/19/2012 6:30:05 PM PDT by darth
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To: blam

The bug out bag makes sense for short emergencies, amounting to going camping up to 3 days on a minute’s notice. The whole point is sometimes you just are on your own: home evacuation, bad weather, medical emergencies, sudden travel, impromptu vacation, whatever. Also is nice to just have the basics on hand. Best use for mine was my first child’s birth: I was so focused on them I forgot to prep for my own well being for those 3 days, and was nice to just grab the bag from the car.

For long term survival though, you’d best be living it as the norm.


42 posted on 04/19/2012 6:35:01 PM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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To: blam
if you have a half decent house, property, etc, with some nice "things" on it, basically if you bug out you're abandoning all of that...it'll fall into ruin or be a refuge for squatters or it'll be taken over by the govt...

if you live in an apt in downtown Philly or Baltimore or Detroit for example...YES by all means if the economy stops functioning then head for the hills....

43 posted on 04/19/2012 6:36:48 PM PDT by cherry
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To: SuzyQue
Thank you kindly. Kicking myself in the rear cause I did not do this earlier. Got some good advice from a Kalifornian old timer who watched his state become ruined and collapsed. He said starting a new life in a new place would be productive. Only problem is got some crazy Kalifornians I need to hide from. The stories I could tell. Us Kalifornians bring our baggage unfortunately (we can check out, but we can never leave, apparently).
44 posted on 04/19/2012 6:37:26 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: darth
"Depending on the scale of the crisis I would organize my nearest neighbors, then the block, then the surrounding 100 or so blocks, and so on."

Would?

Now is the time.

45 posted on 04/19/2012 6:37:45 PM PDT by blam
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

Preppers’ PING!


46 posted on 04/19/2012 6:37:57 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: pallis

It’d be difficult to secure a boat.


47 posted on 04/19/2012 6:41:55 PM PDT by bgill
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To: weps4ret

If that were to happen deer would be extinct Rabbits, squirrel and any other small rodent wouldn’t be far behind.


48 posted on 04/19/2012 6:57:37 PM PDT by stevio (God, guns, guts.)
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To: blam
I have also made underground caches of supplies within walking distance to my house. These caches contain 3-4days worth of food, medical supplies, a gun and supplies of ammo. If I'm driven from my home I have a 'retreat' spot or two where I can survive and gather my wits for a possible retake of my house. These cached supplies will afford me that opportunity. Those caches are my 'bug-out bags.'

I'll give that some thought. Thanks!

49 posted on 04/19/2012 7:00:12 PM PDT by Pollster1 (Can we afford as much government as welfare-addicted voters demand?)
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To: stevio

You are right. During the depression, Deer, wild hogs, alligator, and turkey and the gopher tortoise were all but wiped out in this area. Squirrels and rabbits did a bit better.


50 posted on 04/19/2012 7:03:54 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: justa-hairyape
Usually it is not wise to wait until the last moment to bug out. However with a few exceptions you can see trouble coming.

I am going to state generally the bug out plan that I have set up.

One safe spot is with in walking distance. It would be a hike but it can be reached on foot. The another is under a quarter of a tank to drive to get there. Another is slightly over your average tank of gas to reach and still another is over two tanks of gas away. These are not the only ones I have but they serve as examples.

Our place also serves as a safe spot for others. If something hits their area and doesn't hit ours then we will be taking people in. I have supplies and items ready to do that.

Don't just have one plan. You need to have a number of plans depending on what happens. You can't prepare for everything. But you can try. And the act of planing leaves you in better shape to deal with the strange quirks that live just loves to throw at you.

51 posted on 04/19/2012 7:18:18 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (In most cases, revenge is not a good thing. In other cases, it's the only thing.)
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To: blam
if i ever have to "Bug Out", it will consist of going three miles down the hill into the valley and then three miles up the hill on the other side to my cousins farm since i don't have room here for crops or animals... but that's it from then on to the end, one way or another
52 posted on 04/19/2012 7:24:12 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: AlmaKing

I’ll G’damned guarantee you one thing. We won’t behave like Bosnians!

(Or will we?)


53 posted on 04/19/2012 7:27:41 PM PDT by x1stcav (There's a bunch of us out here spoiling for a fight.)
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To: blam

Don’t worry, if it is any consolatation, the gubermint will legally classify you as an “internally displaced person” rather than a “refugee.”


54 posted on 04/19/2012 7:27:41 PM PDT by Repeat Offender (While the wicked stand confounded, call me with Thy Saints surrounded)
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To: blam

I can think of a few situations why bugging out would be best, but then I chose my land with an eye toward avoiding those situations. Wildfires might still be an issue, but even that’s not as likely as it might be in some areas.

Still, I’d rather be over-prepared than under-prepared.


55 posted on 04/19/2012 7:34:02 PM PDT by Ellendra ("It's astounding how often people mistake their own stupidity for a lack of fairness." --Thunt)
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To: Partisan Gunslinger

Or, you could say the part of my ancestry that isn’t Native American (Seminole) were simply coming home ;)

Two ways of looking at it.


56 posted on 04/19/2012 7:37:40 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
"Don't just have one plan. You need to have a number of plans depending on what happens."

Good advice. What you're planning for may not happen the way you've planned. More and/or flexible plans will be better.

57 posted on 04/19/2012 7:39:54 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

“Bugging out” to me has always meant one of two things...

Either bringing just the necessities to get to a more secure location.

Or getting from where I’m at to my fighting gear and then joining the action.

It has never meant going on the lam and hiding. Ever.


58 posted on 04/19/2012 7:41:04 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
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To: blam

A good way to start is to become the Precinct Chairman of your local voting precinct.

You have a duty to visit every registered voter in the precinct (block walking). You also get to know the terrain.

It’s a good way to get to know the neighbors. You can ask them to get involved as campaign volunteers, election officials, and Poll Watchers as well.

I recruited three new Election Judges last year. One was an honest Democrat so I encouraged her to serve her party.

Like some of the other posters on this thread, I have a business and home in the city. I will not let a mob take or destroy that. My employees and neighbors will stand with me.

BTW, we are diverse! My condo complex has Hispanics, African-Americans, Lebanese, Chinese, straights and gays. A couple of them are outstanding and all are good neighbors.


59 posted on 04/19/2012 7:45:01 PM PDT by darth
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
And the act of planing leaves you in better shape to deal with the strange quirks that live just loves to throw at you.

From what I have experienced going through a planned and slow bug-out to a safer location, the prep planning I did before hand, came in very handy. Even in a planned bug-out relocation, there are numerous unforeseen difficulties. And yes, mobility will be crucial. Kinda funny that many of the items I was glad to be packing into the truck, were the prep items.

60 posted on 04/19/2012 7:45:04 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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