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Group blasts Marine Corps for reviving 'Crusaders' name and symbols
msnbc.com ^ | April 18, 2012 | Kari Huus

Posted on 04/18/2012 6:42:45 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

A recent decision by the Marine Corps to reinstate "Crusaders" as the name of its Fighter Attack Squadron 122 — replacing "Werewolves" — and adopting the red cross of the medieval Knights Templar was blasted as unconstitutional and willfully ignorant by a civil rights group Wednesday.

"I don’t know that the Marine Corps could do anything more to fuel the cause of jihad," said Mikey Weinstein, founder of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation, a nonprofit organization that advocates church-state separation. "It will directly end up taking lives and maiming members of our military." Advertise | AdChoices

VMFA-122 based out of Beaufort, S.C., used the Crusaders symbol from 1958 up to 2008, when Lt. Col. William Lieblein pointed out that imagery invoking the Christian conquest and colonization of Muslims during the Middle Ages was counterproductive to U.S. soldiers based across the Arab and Islamic world.

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To: Free ThinkerNY

“Mikey Weinstein...Lt. Col. William Lieblein”

Hmmm. A pattern among those who pander to Muzzies?


61 posted on 04/18/2012 8:37:20 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: Charles Martel; All

Mikey will eat anything.
BIG BIG laugh at LINK
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGfR7H3SSdc


62 posted on 04/18/2012 8:48:41 PM PDT by GOYAKLA (Recall/ Impeachment Day, November 6, 2012. FUBO)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
There was a time when VA-115 (A-6 squadron) was known as the Arabs. Their slogan was “The Arabs get theirs at night.” A creative wife of a squadron member came up with the slogan, “The arabesques get theirs at night, too.”
63 posted on 04/18/2012 8:49:09 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: mckenzie7

Charles Martel (23 August 686 – 22 October 741), also known as Charles the Hammer, was a Frankish military and political leader, Charlie was the original “Hammer Time”.
He is remembered for winning the Battle of Tours in 732, in which he defeated an invading Moorish army and halted northward Islamic expansion in western Europe. He was also the father of Pepin the Short and grandfather of Charlemagne.


64 posted on 04/18/2012 8:49:52 PM PDT by Colorado Cowgirl (God bless America!)
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To: RJS1950
The Squadron slogan should be the Crusader battlecry-Deus vult (Latin for “God wills it”) was the cry of the people at the declaration of the First Crusade by Pope Urban II at the Council of Clermont in 1095.[1] The phrase appears variously as Deus vult (Classical Latin), Dieu le veut (French), Deus lo vult, etc.
Deus lo vult is the motto of the Equestrian Order of the Holy Sepulchre of Jerusalem, a Catholic order of chivalry.
65 posted on 04/18/2012 8:51:47 PM PDT by robowombat
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To: null and void
It didn’t eliminate the threat.

Well, that's not entirely fair. They did a splendid job of pushing the Muslim hordes back out of Europe... all the way to Jerusalem. They did pretty well with what they had. The money eventually ran out, though. The ninth (I think...) crusade was doomed from the start and never really engaged, mainly because there was no money.

66 posted on 04/18/2012 8:55:02 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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To: Jim Noble
What was wrong with the Crusades?

Not a darned thing. :-)

67 posted on 04/18/2012 8:56:42 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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To: wardaddy
I love it, Jewish Activists who still think it is 1938 in the US. Don't these people grasp that the ‘Christian Right’ is the most pro-Israel and generally pro-Jewish part of the gentile US population. Certainly more pro-Israel than many Reform Jews here are. I know Elie Wiesel was somewhat stunned when introduced to a conclave of pro-Zionist members of the ‘Christian Right’ but he gratefully accepted the support. What is Weinstein’s fixation, that everyone should be a good secular liberal.
68 posted on 04/18/2012 8:58:10 PM PDT by robowombat
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The Muslims would think nothing of murdering this man on the basis of his name alone.

They would be doing strong, freedom loving men from the US and Israel a service by taking out our garbage.


69 posted on 04/18/2012 8:59:18 PM PDT by TFMcGuire (Liberalism Is Hatred)
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To: wardaddy
***Mikey Weinstein is a Jewish activist with a hard on for the Christian Right.****

I bet he would really wet his pants if they used the US Army National Guard 45th division patch.

By the way, that is an American Indian symbol.

70 posted on 04/18/2012 9:14:21 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Go Marines!!!


71 posted on 04/18/2012 9:34:56 PM PDT by windcliff
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To: tanknetter
The hell???

I got out in 1994... Didn't hear a word of it then. Did my last few months in El Toro. Also gone...

Maybe I'm a jinx...

72 posted on 04/18/2012 9:38:32 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
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To: Ramius

*sigh* and we won’t either.


73 posted on 04/18/2012 9:41:27 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1184 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: Jack Hydrazine

I find ‘pork eating Crusader’ very unsettling.

It completely ignores beer.


74 posted on 04/18/2012 9:52:58 PM PDT by Psalm 144 ("I'm not willing to light my hair on fire to try and get support. I am who I am." - Willard M Romney)
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To: SuperLuminal

No, if they want to show up and defend Weinstein, they can do it on their own.


75 posted on 04/18/2012 9:53:17 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Romney is a Mormon Bishop, as was his father, his uncle was in line to be the Mormon Prophet/Pope)
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To: Psalm 144

You could always look up the creator of the patch and ask if they could re-do it just a little so it shows the Crusader holding a pork chop in the left hand and a beer in the right. LOL!


76 posted on 04/18/2012 10:00:58 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Yep....the fabulous thunderbird


77 posted on 04/18/2012 10:12:26 PM PDT by wardaddy (I am a social conservative. My political party left me(again). They can go to hell in a bucket.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I don’t know that the Marine Corps could do anything more to fuel the cause of jihad


I’m sure the enemies will feel better when the squadron dropping bombs on them is named the “Sensitivity to Arabs Squad” instead of crusaders. What a bunch of B.S. Don’t forget to tell them to dip the bullets in lard.


78 posted on 04/18/2012 10:41:00 PM PDT by Idaho_Cowboy (Pile on the coal / burn some old tires - it's earth week.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I don’t know that the Marine Corps could do anything more to fuel the cause of jihad,” said Mikey Weinstein, founder of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation

The you are an IDIOT..
jihad exists because the cult of islam dictates that non believers be killed. The evil death cult needs no urging to kill us. It is what they live for.
I love the new name Crusaders...... Marines DO LEAD THE CRUSADE against ALL EVIL and it does not get anymore evil then islam...........


79 posted on 04/18/2012 11:10:29 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the New American Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
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To: null and void

I’m not so sure. I think eventually... People will get it. But the carnage between now and then will be off the charts.


80 posted on 04/18/2012 11:20:25 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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