Here are your presidential choices as it stands today

April 16, 2012 | Jim Robinson

[Jim Robinson]

Here are their positions on some major issues important to conservatives based on their actual records in government or past boasts.

Issue	Obama	Romney	Newt
Advocated that abortion s/b safe & legal in America	y	y	n
Defended Roe v Wade as settled law	y	y	n
Advocated for abortion for underage girls without parental approval with judge's ok	y	y	n
Supported planned parenthood	y	y	n
Introduced $50 taxpayer funded abortion	y	y	n
Supports homosexual agenda	y	y	n
Better for homosexuals than Ted Kennedy	y	y	n
Ok with homosexuals in Scouts	y	y	n
Ok with homosexuals in military	y	y	n
Supported and still supports global warming hoax	y	y	n
Supports gun control (so-called "assault weapons" ban)	y	y	n
Supports amnesty for illegal aliens (by any other name it's still amnesty)	y	y	n
Is undeniable father of RomneyCare	n	y	n
Is undeniable grandfather of ObamaCare	n	y	n
Still boasts that RomneyCare is great!	y	y	n
Still boasts that RomneyCare is a "conservative solution"	n	y	n
Still believes RomneyCare is constitutional	y	y	n
Still believes individual mandate ok at state level	y	y	n
Believes state forcing individuals to buy health insurance is a conservative idea	n	y	n
Believes compulsory health insurance with mandates and penalties s/b imposed on all states at state level	n	y	n
Believes compulsory health insurance at state level is constitutional (states rights)	?	y	n
Believes the state has constitutional power to force you into a private contract against your will for no other reason than you live there	y	y	n
Supports government "stimulus" spending claims more is necessary	y	y	n
Believes personal income tax should be cut drastically (15% flat tax)	n	n	y
Believes corp income tax should be cut drastically (12.5% corp rate)	n	n	y
Believes capital expenditures should be 100% expensed in first year	n	n	y
Believes capital gains tax should be eliminated	n	n	y
Believes estate tax (death tax) should be eliminated	n	n	y
Believes federal government must be drastically cut per constitutional limits	n	n	y
Believes unconstitutional federal functions like education should be returned to the states and people per tenth amendment	n	n	y
Believes social security/medicare s/b phased out/privatized/returned to states and people	n	n	y
Believes everyone at EPA should be fired and start over as an agency to look for solutions/not hinder industry	n	n	y
Believes the constitution restricts the government from infringing on inalienable rights	n	n	y
Appoints/supports/cowers to liberal activist judges	y	y	n
Will challenge activist judiciary	n	n	y
Believes in founding principles and has best conservative record to back it up	n	n	y

[DJ MacWoW]

I notice that you totally ignored the RNC machines actions, or lack of them, in Florida. Didn't fit your party propaganda, did it.

Bye.

[Artcore]

“Riiight [rolls eyes]”
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A review of my posting history confirms what I say is true. My posting history also confirms that when she said she wasn't going to run, I got firmly behind Cain, then Newt, and then Santorum (when I thought Newt might drop out or didn't have a chance). I'm still very hopeful Newt can pull something off. He will destroy the Kenyan in debates.

[Artcore]

“A true Palin supporter would NEVER support Myth Romney. And I say that as one of the very earliest Palin supporters, I was supporting her candidacy months before most non-Alaskans even knew who she was (and I can prove it).”
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Well, we're in good company, I've also been a very loud Palin supporter since she ran with McCain.

You do have one problem, however, in your comment above; Palin has said on numerous occasions “ABO”...even if this meant Romney was the candidate.

Penny for your thoughts?

[COBOL2Java]

Then why in God’s name could you possibly be willing to support Romney? He is 100% antithetical to everything that Sarah Palin stands for. Those of us who will NEVER vote for the faux conservative do so out of strong principles. We can never allow ourselves to fall into the ends-justify-the-means RINO arguments for supporting Romney. If we do, then we have abandoned conservatism, and like the man who boasts that he is the most humble person ever born, has explicitly lost the argument.

[flintsilver7]

Jim and I have gone back and forth this thread.

I’ll let you catch up on your own time.

[wagglebee]

You do have one problem, however, in your comment above; Palin has said on numerous occasions “ABO”...even if this meant Romney was the candidate.

Palin has a position to maintain in the GOP, I don't.

You might notice that Palin is the main Republican who isn't running that hasn't endorsed Romney, that hardly seems like support.

[TADSLOS]

Is the lightning machine down for service today?

Once it kicks in and cleans FR of the Romneyites, it's gonna take down the grid.

[Jim Robinson]

And he supports compulsory health insurance in all 50 states which makes him a statist/fascist/socialist and enemy of Liberty just like Obama.

Reagan on compulsory health insurance (RomneyCare):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRdLpem-AAs

[CatherineofAragon]

"Great chart

I would like to see a chart with Rick Perry on these issues.

To see what we lost.

Oy vey. :::::big sad sigh::::

[roamer_1]

The only viable conservative action is to not vote for President. Only when Socialist Republicans get <30% of the vote will the party understand Conservatism matters.

That is not true the way I see it:

I think the Conservative thing to do is to vote for a conservative in every slot possible, to include the presidency. If a third party candidate IS conservative by his nature and his record, why wouldn't I vote for him, rather than skip or stay home?

Last election, in three weeks during the Republican primary, the Christian Right lifted Huck out of the cheap seats single-handed... because they had no pro-life candidate in the top tier. They created a top-tier candidate (would that it had been Hunter they chose).

Look at FR's contribution to the tea party... Look at the TEA Party itself... cross-pollinate with the Christian, military, and civil libertarian forums...

If huck can ride the Christian Right's coattails to the spotlight and do as well as he did, literally ANY conservative could do the same...

[COBOL2Java]

Oy vey. :::::big sad sigh::::

I believe that God is still blessing this nation, and Governor's Perry's untimely back surgery was God's way of telling him "Not now - I have plans for you later".

[CatherineofAragon]

I refuse to enable Romney to shove his ruinous socialist healthcare down my throat.

[Artcore]

Trust me when I tell you, it makes me sick to potentially have to vote for Romney, but things are what they are. Like Rush says: “I live in Realville.” Again, I'm hoping something dramatic happens with Newt...I'm still holding out hope.

One of the reasons that I've decided to vote for Romney should he become the nominee, is because Palin has been a strong proponent of ABO...even if the GOP candidate were Romney. I'm sure this doesn't thrill her either (Hmmm, maybe why SaraPac reserved some space at the convention?), but again, this may be our potential reality.

[Blowtorch]

You people think you are so clever with your “Who is Ron Paul?” sarcastic comments but then whine about how bad Romney is. You put yourself in this corner and it’s attitudes like this that got us Romney as opposed to a true conservative Ron Paul. Thanks for helping Obama get re-elected.

[Drew68]

Just don't be so dismissive of moral and spiritual priorities.

That's pretty funny considering that virtually every person on this forum who has expressed a desire to vote out of office the most destructive, America-hating Marxist president this nation has ever suffered have found themselves on the defensive, derided as homo-loving RINO Romneybots and wondering if their next post will be their last.

[baysider]

I live in Texas and just recieved an automated call from the Romney camp to contribute to his campaign and recieve a free bumper sticker.

“Press 1 to contribute, press 2 to be removed from the list”

Easy choice...#2

[devolve]

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Mitt Romney voted for the Lautenberg Amendment

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[DJ MacWoW]

He Faced A "Superior" Foe With Nothing But Farmers And Backwoodsmen
He Was Told He Couldn't Win

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[D-fendr]

A unified opposition would have, and perhaps still could, beat Romney. In spite of all your points.

A weak field and lack of a unified opposition got us here. A strong candidate with unified support behind him and we wouldn’t be here. There’s nothing permanent about the party that hasn’t been changed in the past and can’t be in the future.

I don’t see your alternatives having any good effect. Do you, does the opposition to Romney, even agree on who to unite behind? I don’t see it. All I can see is taking the same infighting somewhere else; and, I don’t see what good that would do.

thanks for your replies.