Posted on 04/15/2012 6:32:45 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
The article doesn't mention when they were upgraded from burning coal.
That was a "hot shot" pilot that was breaking rules on purpose practicing for an airshow. His wings stalled at around 45 degrees, then continued rotating nose down to impact.
The airplane is great, but not at aerobatics. The Vulcan, because of it's configuration, was much better at low speed airwork.
I know, but it amazed me that it was even possible (including the stuff he did that was recoverable before the fatal maneuver).
Damn! Now I feel old - Log-Log-Duplex-Decitrig! It's prolly around here someplace .......................................... FRegards
/johnny
Respectfully disagree.
You create/buy cutting edge tech to own the air and supress surface to air and other anti-air assets.
Then you send the busses in at .98 mach to pulverize the ground. Add targetted long range munitions, and you don’t even need to fully own the air.
BFUBs suit the bill wonderfully. Still do, will until they literally start falling apart. And the replacement probably won’t do the job as well...
Back in the mid 60's I was a radar tech working on the AN/SPS-2 system on USS Northampton CC-1 out of Norfolk. The 'Deuce' was electronically identical to a DEW Line radar, with a 20'x40' diamond parabolic antenna, stabilized for pitch and roll and perched VERY high on the ship.
If we were far enough at sea and tilted the antenna down, we could paint the entire East coast. Very cool.
But the damned thing used a LOT of power, and every time the snipes dropped the load on generators, we blew a klystron...took about three days to repair. It was eventually declared 'unfit for sea duty' and removed.
Too funny!!! And I’m sure the smoke is from cooking and not the patrons’ weeds!!
A visitor last year picked it up and said: "This looks complicated, what is it for?"
I never answered. I just went to get another beer.
/johnny
That's actually a calculation I've made several times. Including once in a military dining facility where there was a 'stuck' front door.
Took forever to get a real engineer to look at the numbers and the plain proof of a few millibars of vacuum compared to outside air pressure.
Simple changes in the make-up air vents, and all was good.
Cooks can do a lot.
/johnny
Why were they called snipes? And what actually were they? Powerplant?
Always time for schooling for the ignorant.
/johnny
The OTH was cool because it bounced off the ionosphere and “looked down” at the target, which is/was about the only way (other than pure dumb luck) to detect an incoming cruise missile (hence my previous “earthshaking” comment).
The last model, the H's aren't so smokey. Their engines are different than the other models (TF-33, verses J-57) but are still an old design, really just a modified version of the older J-57 with a fan stage or two. The newer engines, or a very similar commercial model, are so old that they've long since left most commercial service, and many reserve KC-135s, which originally also had J-57s, have been re-engined with the commercial variant, taken off old airliners. That wing flapping causes lots of fatigue problems in the fuselage. A BUFF on the ground looks all wrinkled, like the old gal she is.
They still sound like a B-52 after all these years.
/johnny
The crew on the Buff was VERY experienced, but the 135 had a young guy. It was a hot mid-day departure scheduled, we got to ops & he ran the numbers, said "holy shit", and called the command post and said we were too heavy to get off the ground and needed to offload some fuel. Command post said we could make it, so he had us hurry out and start engines to burn fuel before takeoff. Ran thru checklists several times, admitted he was looking for something wrong...eventually decided the wing trim tab actuators were working slow, so shut 'em down & get maintenance out (hoping the delay would allow the afternoon to cool down providing more thrust).
Well, the wing panels are off, guys swarming it, & I'm standing on the ramp in a jump suit with no rank on it, picking my nose and watching aF-117 takeoff, when a bird Col comes up, stares me in the eye and says "What's your rank mister?". I calmly looked him in the eye and said GS-14....what's yours?
He was taken aback for a moment, then said "Oh--you're the FAA guy". I admitted I were, he invited me in the command post to cool down, have a drink and wait for repairs.
When we finally took off I was really glad the pilot was a chicken, cuz I got a REAL good look at the over-run area....counting rosary beads.
Snipes are the Navy engineering ratings....Boilermakers, Electricians, etc.
And never call a Captain a Colonel... Ouch.
/johnny
I finally figured it out after having it 'splained.
If I had grown up with it? I'd be fine.
But after the rivalry of the '80s, to get thrust back into a Joint Everything after 9/11. Learning quickly was the only good option.
I actually studied on the other services.
/johnny
Wrong Wrong Wrong. That beautiful beast is a bomb truck for convential arms. It can drop GPS guided bombs from great altitude. The GPS guided bombs will hit the intended target and the bad guy dies that day.
The B52 can also carry nuclear armed cruise missiles. The B52 can launch these missile hundreds of miles from the target. Those B52s will survive their mission, the target will not survive. The target will be a smoking cinder from a 250 kiloton fission fusion fission that the B52 delivered from a stand off distance.
High tech is great, but what is even better is low tech delivering the bang for a much lower price.m
First Vulcan I saw was at Lincoln AFB.. or more properly it was doing an air show there, but I saw it over my house. I was 10 or younger, didn’t know what it was and didn’t recognize the British roundel. Of course it’s a very unconventional looking thing, especially for circa 1960.
Scared me for a while until I figured out the roundel.
I think I was there, Carswell, for that ‘83 airshow. I was a reservist then, attached for “inactive duty” training to a reserve Intell training detachment. Was actually assigned as IMA at Foreign Technology Division at Wright Patterson. We used the SAC bomb wing’s Intell/Ops shop, along with some facilities of the reserve F-16 Wing. We also did miscellaneous work for both, mostly for the Bomb Wing.
Did you know there is a town in the old Soviet Union, now Uzbekistan, called Nukus. :) But AFAIK, we didn’t plan to.
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