[Signalman]

the cost of providing employee health care and pensions continues to soar.

This is happening throughout the country. But the Dems don't want to confront it. They just want to raise taxes. Not going to work.

[originalbuckeye]

The rising cost of providing employee health care is due to the requirements of Obamacare. Soon employers will drop health care and just pay the Obamacare fine; it's much cheaper than the cost of the health care. When Americans scream that they were told they could keep their health care, Obama will just say ‘it is the fault of your employer. I have no control over employers keeping your health care options open’. Voila! Not his fault and now you will need Obamacare as it's your only option. There was a LOT of thought put into Obamacare. Looks like they figured every angle and came up with a plan that will ultimately end with single-payer.........exactly as they wanted.

[kingu]

the cost of providing employee health care and pensions continues to soar.

This is happening throughout the country. But the Dems don't want to confront it. They just want to raise taxes. Not going to work.

Open embezzlement by government employees is no longer as hidden as it used to be, is more the truth. Not only do they set their own salaries, but they set their own benefits, and 'match' these benefits to mythical private employers. And once a benefit is given to a public employee, it is there forever.

I'm willing to simply fire the whole lot and start anew - but if they're willing to stop embezzling a bit, maybe we can reduce some of these benefits and pensions to more reasonable sizes, including their contributions to these benefits.

[Political Junkie Too]

Isn't Oregon another failing Democrat enclave, like California and Michigan?

-PJ