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To: mek1959

Moreover, Jefferson is stating that every man has certain unalienable rights endowed upon them by their Creator. Meaning everyone has these unalienable rights. Undoubtedly, all men are created equal and possess the same natural rights under the Laws of Nature and Nature’s God.

That was the view Lincoln was upholding against the Confederate rejection of that truth.

16 posted on 04/15/2012 4:57:00 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (How strangely will the Tools of a Tyrant pervert the plain Meaning of Words!-Sam Adams)
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To: fortheDeclaration

If that’s what Jefferson meant about inalienable rights. You might want to check your history on this, Jefferson was elucidating the Lockean defense against the divine right of kings.

Second, people like you scare me with your Lincoln Machiavellian thought, the ends justify the means for you trample on the Rule of Law. Exactly where in the Constitution did Lincoln have the constitutional AUTHORITY to “preserve the Union” which is why he attacked the South after they seceded. Read his first Inaugural address before you come here and make assertions of which you seem to know nothing about. That he could make a silly argument about the supposed perpetuity of the Union does not mean that his argument is actually based in the Constitution..it wasn’t.

Third, your support of Lincoln suggests an attachment to arbitrary power, another thing that concerns me with your response. I’ll leave it there.


17 posted on 04/15/2012 7:29:17 PM PDT by mek1959
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To: fortheDeclaration
That was the view Lincoln was upholding against the Confederate rejection of that truth.

Oh, you mean the TRUTH that slavery was legally established on the continent at the same time the colonies were being formed?

You mean the TRUTH that slavery was a common national practice when the Declaration of Independence was being written?

You mean the TRUTH that slavery was a common national practice when the Declaration of Independence was being signed?

You mean the TRUTH that slavery was a common national practice when the Declaration of Independence was sent to the King of England?

You mean the TRUTH that slavery was a common national practice when the American Revolution was fought?

You mean the TRUTH that slavery was a common national practice when the first Constitutional Convention was held?

You mean the TRUTH that slavery was a common practice when the States seceded from the Articles of Confederation?

You mean the TRUTH that slavery was a common national practice when the Constitution was signed?

You mean the TRUTH that slavery was a common national practice when the War of 1812 was fought?

You mean the TRUTH that Congress acknowledged slavery was legal in the States and could not be prohibited by the national government?
Journal of the House of Representatives of the United States 1860-1861 Wednesday, December 12, 1860.

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Lincoln's actions had NO relationship with the truth.

It was ALL about Lincoln's ego, Lincoln's 'legacy', and how he justified his unconstitutional exercise of power by using a legal contract for a moral purpose.

And so many people still don't realize the unCivil War didn't 'free' anyone......

it just enslaved us all.

35 posted on 04/17/2012 7:08:21 AM PDT by MamaTexan (I am a ~Person~ as created by the Law of Nature, not a 'person' as created by the laws of Man)
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