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To: backwoods-engineer

My ancestors also fought in the Revolutionary War: it isn’t a rare distinction.

Please quote exactly the part of the Constitution which you contend disqualifies Rubio in view of the fact that he was born in the United States.


71 posted on 04/15/2012 3:06:24 PM PDT by DNA.2012
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To: DNA.2012
"Please quote exactly the part of the Constitution which you contend disqualifies Rubio in view of the fact that he was born in the United States."

I'll pinch hit Mr. DNA. “No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citiizen of the Unites States at the time of the Adoption of This Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of the President;neither shall any person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.”

And to your response that we don't know what our framers meant by ‘natural born citizen’, and it wasn't defined in the Constitution, I'll explain that the framers wrote the Constitution without any definitions for a very good reason; they knew that the meanings of words naturally change. Wanting the the meanings in our Constitution to be understood eternally, they (Madison, St.George Tucker, Hamilton,...) used terms as understood by our framers.

Chief Justice Morrison Waite explained in the case, Minor v. Happersett, in which he affirmed the common law, “At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar,...”. Chief Justice Waite's confirmation was affirmed by every justice, and a hundred others who understood and never challenged Waite's decision. His decision depended upon the definition of the only class of citizen defined before the 14th Amendment, a natural born citizen. “It was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens,...”

Chief Justice Waite also confirmed that there exactly two classes of citizen, natural and naturalized. He defined natural born citizens, and Article II told us that natural born citizenship is a requirement for the presidency. Barack Obama told us he is a naturalized citizen, naturalized because his mother was a citizen, even though his father was not. Marco Rubio's parents and Bobby Jindal's, and Chester Arthur's, and Chief Justice Charles Evans Hughes, and Henry Kissinger's and Arnold Schwarzenegger's, and ... were not, which is why not one is Constitutionally eligible to be president.

Orrin Hatch tried to amend the Constitution for Schwarzenegger, and John Conyers tried for Obama. Neither succeeded. So Republicans ignored the Constitution to give John McCain the shot at the presidency he felt entitled to, in spite of having not been born on sovereign US territory - a sad but accurate technicality. Congress incorporated the Canal Zone a year after McCain was born. There is the definition, defined exactly as are other terms used in the Constitution. Deny the common-law and common language and we have no Constitution, which is what most on the left would appear to prefer.

72 posted on 04/15/2012 8:58:53 PM PDT by Spaulding
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To: DNA.2012
My ancestors also fought in the Revolutionary War: it isn’t a rare distinction.

Isn't it, though, in an era of foreign invaders? How many could you find in South Central LA whose ancestors fought in that war? For damn sure Obama's paternal ancestors didn't. And he has no alliegance to this country. And that's why "natural born citizen" matters, and is NOT equal to "citizen." Wishing won't make it so, either.

Please quote exactly the part of the Constitution which you contend disqualifies Rubio in view of the fact that he was born in the United States.

You know which one. The phrase "natural-born citizen" means a citizen whose parents were citizens. You, and millions of others have been convinced otherwise by the media in order to perpetrate the illegitimate Barack Hussein Obama nee Barry Soetoro on this nation, styling himself as President.

I reject Obama as the legitimate president, because his father was not a citizen of the USA. (Indeed, it is even doubtful he was born here. See, I trust Sheriff Arpaio over the liar Obama and his minions.)

He is a foreign enemy of the Constitution of the United States. I reject Rubio, or any other person whose parents were not citizens, for the office of President, because the Constitution states "natural-born", which your upstart generation has perverted to mean anything you want.

I reject your base-born "President." I reject Rubio. He is NOT WORTHY OF THE OFFICE, because his parents were not citizens when he was born. I cling to the words of MY ancestors, who fought in that great war. Their words are still with us, and I believe them over your upstart generation and the perverted rulings that have issued forth from the "Supreme" Court which contravene the plain meaning of the Constitution.

And millions agree with me.

86 posted on 04/16/2012 7:02:26 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (I will vote against ANY presidential candidate who had non-citizen parents.)
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