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To: zeestephen
OK, thanks for the tips. The Wagist website has a lot of info collected into one place. Very useful. The story you mention is The Missing 2:30 & DeeDee’s Testimony. The part about Trayvon going to Zimmerman's truck that you mentioned, from a Reuter's article, is as follows.

On Wednesday, the day after receiving the news, Martin went to the Sanford Police Department looking for answers - and his son's body. Police took him to a room and played some of the 911 recordings of neighbors who called to report a disturbance followed by a gunshot.

They did not play an earlier call to a police non-emergency line, during which Zimmerman reported a "suspicious guy" and ignored the operator's suggestion to quit following him. Investigator Chris Serino then took Martin to another room and told him Zimmerman's version of events.

Sanford police have stopped talking to reporters about the case, and Serino has never spoken publicly about his role in it, but here is how Martin recalls what Serino said: "He told me Zimmerman's story was that Zimmerman was of course following him and that Trayvon approached his vehicle, walked up to the car and asked Zimmerman, ‘Why are your following me?' Zimmerman then rolls his car windows down, tells Trayvon ‘I'm not following you.' He rolls his car windows up.

"Trayvon walks off. Zimmerman said he started running between the buildings. Zimmerman gets out of his car. He comes around the building. Trayvon is hiding behind the building, waiting on him. Trayvon approaches him and says, ‘What's your problem, homes?' Zimmerman says ‘I don't have a problem.'

"Zimmerman starts to reach into his pocket to get his cellphone, and at that point Trayvon attacked him. He says Trayvon hits him. He falls on the ground. Trayvon jumps on top of him, takes his left hand and covers Zimmerman's mouth and tells him to shut the F up and continues to pound on him.

"At that point Zimmerman is able to unholster his weapon and fire a shot, striking Trayvon in the chest. Trayvon falls on his back and says, 'You got me.'" The Martin family has been telling their story as part of a campaign to have Zimmerman arrested. He himself has kept quiet. (more in the article)

The problem with that is it is third-hand info. It is supposedly what Det. Serino told Tracy Martin and Tracy told his family who then told it to the press and others. As it says above at the end Tracy Martin himself hasn't told the press that. Another problem is that the first confrontation at the truck would have had to have happened before Zimmerman called the police dispatcher which doesn't make much sense since Zimmerman calmly describes Trayvon first noticing him while on the line with the dispatcher and Zimmerman gets out of his truck during that call. It just doesn't fit at all that there was a confrontation at the truck before Zimmerman made that call.

Really good links though. Thanks again.

178 posted on 04/14/2012 2:47:41 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: TigersEye
As it says above at the end Tracy Martin himself hasn't told the press that.

Yes, he has.

Tracy Martin Interview


184 posted on 04/14/2012 3:52:31 PM PDT by Alice in Wonderland
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To: TigersEye
Yes, I'm quite impressed with Wagist.com.

Informed, well written, carefully analyzed.

The big questions in my mind are.....

(1) How long did Zimm observe Martin before he called police?

(2) Did Zimm follow Martin in his truck before calling?

(3) Was Martin talking to DeeDee when Zimm first observed him? It's easy for me to believe that 17 year old Martin might be acting goofy or unpredictably if he's on the phone...”Hey, baby, I'm standing out here in the rain talking to you.”

(4) Was there actually a confrontation at the truck, before or after Zimm’s police call?

(5) Did Zimm return briefly to his truck after ending his police call?

(6) DeeDee claims Martin was frightened, that she heard a fight start, then the phone went dead. Can DeeDee be believed when it appears she made no attempt to call 911 or Martin's parents after Martin hung up?

Hopefully, the court's evidence file will be released soon.

The New York Times reported that Zimm did a step-by-step, next day, at the scene, video reenactment for Police.

To my eye, Zimm’s credibility seems quite solid so far.

Seeing that video should help put the whole puzzle together.

231 posted on 04/15/2012 3:30:45 AM PDT by zeestephen
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