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I hope it is true the GOP has been doing a side step right for the last 30 some years perhaps beginning with Nixon's evocation of the ‘Silent Majority’ so that a GOP moderate is today what used to be a ‘liberal Republican’.

Now for the rest. Yes i do really hate most government. I spent years working for the feds and even though I worked for one of the legitimately Constitutional functions by the time I left i figured 70% of our activity was just wasting the dollars that somebody actually worked to earn. I despise the lazy undemanding bloated public school bureaucracy that consumes half of my fairly high real estate taxes and can never explain in any understandable manner what its test standards are and produces people who have no clue about what the Constitution says or what the origins are and why it was established as a ‘negative grant of rights’ other than thinking the Preamble to the Declaration is part of the Constitution. Yes I do hate many of the pieces of the federal government, BATF with its fascist mentality and utter contempt for the rights of US citizens, the FBI with its endless pretensions of godlike capacity and its thuggish operational code, the sheer illegality of the actions of most Federal Attorneys, the damned EPA with its overweening arrogance and conceit that i have enduring in dealing with them in intrafederal relations. I can only imagine what they are like in dealing with citizens who have violated or they feel have violated any of their sacred rules which they consider to be like the laws of the Medes and Persians to be eternal and immutable.
Yes i do hate the generations of trolls from the Treasury and the Fed like Geithner and Paulson and Bernake who have debauched our currency and destroyed it as a measure of value and devoured huge amounts of savings of average citizens through their playing god with the dollar. Mostly I hate government for its endless perversion of the limited government maximum individual freedom model the Founders gave us. I hate it because those in DC or the 57 state capitals or thousands of city and county government centers those who serve in government truly feel they are our rulers and not the citizens servant.

Now as for Rove & Co. Yes they do despise rank and file Americans who do not play the role of appropriately grateful serf which is how they see the power equation. One really does have to live in DC for a while to imbibe the haughty contempt that town has for ‘average Americans’. A phrase that drips with condescension and dismissal by those who believe they are a true governing elite. Their idea is that the ‘silent majority’ is supposed to stay silent, vote as told by their betters and not disturb the smooth flow of deal making and boon peddling that is the true mother's milk of the DC political culture.

659 posted on 04/13/2012 4:11:17 PM PDT by robowombat
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Thanks for the response. My own experience, though, is that people complain about the government when their party is out of power and then support more government programs and interference when their party governs.

Maybe the Tea Party changes this a little. Maybe the next Republican president will care more about deficits and cutting spending than the last one, but people who hope for a lot more than that are going to be disappointed. So far as I can see that's more or less the nature of politicians and voters, save in truly exceptional circumstances.

Forty, fifty years ago when all this Republican elite talk started, the liberals and moderates in the party really were an elite -- people like the Rockefellers, Lodges, Scrantons. Most of the wealth of the country was in the Northeast, and a lot of it was in families who'd had money for decades. And many of those old money types were Republican leaders and quite liberal. The South and West, by contrast, were poorer and less developed, and had real grievances.

But if Karl Rove and Ann Coulter are today's Republican elite -- well, the elite just isn't what it used to be. It's not people who've had power for generations anymore. It's people who are one election or one Washington job separated from the rest of us. No doubt they get impatient with the rest of us as obstacles to having everything their way, but I doubt they hate or despise us.

If Establishment Republicans get elected in Arizona, Utah, South Carolina, or Nebraska as well as in Maine, New York, Massachusetts, or Vermont, that's another change. Some people are pushing a regional conflict within the party that doesn't take into account that politicians from different regions tend to behave in similar ways after they're elected.

1,525 posted on 04/14/2012 9:48:31 AM PDT by x
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