Romney's already a loser...and the GOP-e -- not us -- picked the loser...
If the GOP-e wanted to -- for a change of pace -- consider its base & who we would support, it wouldn't have given us Romney.
I can;t beleive I’m even readign htat conservatives are even contemplating throwign hteir votes away on a candidate that has no chance to win...
Romney is the one that has no chance of winning--especially after the MSM permanently tarnashes the GoP reputation for picking a man who gave 10% of his adult income to an openly racist org for 13 years.
Let's say a 3rd-party candidate gets 13%...
..Given that the Republicans have less than 30% of all registered voters -- and many of them won't vote for Romney -- I'd be surprised if Romney gets 32-33%...
If Obama gets 46% but takes more key states...
...& minority-party candidates split the rest...
...then you 32-percenters have not only wasted your vote [voting for a guy who didn't have a chance to win -- getting less than 1/3rd of the country's vote]...
...but seared your conscience forever...
...you've permanently lost ANY ground upon which to criticize ANY big-government/socialized boondoggle...having supported a big-govt socialist boondoggle candidate yourself...
...and pro-lifers voting for Romney have permanently lost ANY ground to critique other pro-abortion candidates...
...conservatives woudl rather romney lost than to vote for someone they aren’t entirely comfortable with...
Really? Somebody (Romney) advocating less than 4.5 years ago -- three years after supposedly becoming "pro-life" -- that it's "OK" for parents to give up their offspring to "research" is only "discomforting" to you?
Tell you what? Why don't you do some online research about what aborted babies look like...and then realize how Romney is still fostering taxpayer-funded abortions...and then take your "not entirely comfortable" crap to hell where it was conceived -- and is giving birth on threads like these.
All of those “conservatives” who vote for Romney are going to feel queasy for 4 years at least. They might not like Obama being a leftwinger but at least they can’t take the blame for him. How will it feel for you when it YOUR GUY pushing leftwing crap on the country.
Many of them will try to convince themselves that its okay, since he’s a Republican. Many of them will be completely co-opted and openly support their “guy”.
- When you bend over and grab the ankles and vote for a leftwing liar progressive you are no longer part of the “conservative movement” period.
You are a sheep.
- Many of them will LIKE taking it up the rear and will stay RINO’s forever. “We have to vote for them, no matter what!”
The whole point of Free Republic was that we are tired of voting for moderates, so now they want us to vote for real liberals. I am stunned to see how many are actually willing to follow the GOPe off the liberal cliff.
Once you have shown the GOPe you are willing to vote for a liberal, do you really think you can “push them to the right” ever again??
LOL, who is this 3rd party candidate that is getting 13% of vote? The Libertarians (unless maybe Paul runs) will get their standard .5% of the vote and other 3rd party's like the Constitution party will get a tiny fraction of the vote as per usual (think .15% or thereabouts). The total 3rd party take will amount to around 1-2% of the vote.
I'd be surprised if Romney gets 32-33%...
I agree that Romney is probably going to lose, but it will likely be a very close election and the victor is only going to win by a narrow margin. The scenario you've put forward here is utterly divorced from political reality and seems based on the idea that masses of Republican voters won't turn out for Mitt. That is a bad assumption. The hatred for Obama and desire to remove him from office will be sufficient to energize the vast majority of Republicans and even most conservatives. People like Palin, Santorum, Newt, Perry, Cain, Bachmann will all be out campaigning for him too in order to get the grass roots out.
Willard is a truly uninspiring and lousy candidate, but the idea some people are putting forward that he can't win is ridiculous. The bad economy alone gives him a decent chance. I'd say the chameleon has a 30-40% chance to be elected President.
[[Romney’s already a loser...and the GOP-e — not us — picked the loser...]]
That’s the spirit-
[[If the GOP-e wanted to — for a change of pace — consider its base & who we would support, it wouldn’t have given us Romney. ]]
True- but they didn’t- an it is what it is- and we have to try to make hte best of a crappy siturtion- or at least we should isntead of declarign everything is hopeless
[[...but seared your conscience forever...
...you’ve permanently lost ANY ground upon which to criticize ANY big-government/socialized boondoggle...having supported a big-govt socialist boondoggle candidate yourself...]]
Let’s make oen htign clear here- I don’t support romeny- I support voting obama who is MUCH MUCH worse than romeny out of office for all the reasons I’ve previously stated-
Let’s say that you know of a boss who is abusing employees- is brutal, cruel, hates his employees, and does whatever he can to make life miserable for them- and let’s say that life has becoem unbearable under that boss- now let’s say a person is running to replace that boss- and is the only choice we’ve got to replace that boss but hwo isn’t everythign we had hooped for- woudl it be better to keep the abusive cruekl boss inplace? Or go with htel esser of two evils for the sake of easing some of he cruelty agaisnt the abused employees?
We KNOW for a FACt that udner obama- millions have lost hteir jos, businesses have had such strict regulations put on them that htey’ve had to fire people, folsk havel ost hteir homes and are out on the streets, and that that whole families are lving o nthe streets duwe to losding hteir homes thanks to a far left socialist liberal who couldn’t give two craps abotu them- Is it ethical to abstain from voting and keeping a known antiamerican out of touch chicago thug in office? Or shoudl we try to at the very leaqst lessen the abuse by voting in a different boss even if they aren’t optimal if it’;s the oly real chance we have to get the current thiug out of office?
you talk abotu conscience beign seared- Yet apparently you’rs wouldn’;t be seared IF obama were to get another 4 years, and it was shown statistically that had mroe conservatives simpyly held hteir noses and voted romeny then he wouldn’t have gaiend another 4 years?
I;m sorry, but I don’;t understand how leavign someone so brutally and blatantly antiamerican in office is better than gettign someone in who at least does have soem conservative values- obama has none- zero- zip- nada- Hell, he isn’;t even proud of this country!
I just dont get it-