Posted on 04/12/2012 5:47:42 PM PDT by Engraved-on-His-hands
If and when Barack Obama wins another four years in the White House, one of the first people he should invite over is Rick Santorum.
That's because when the scholars chronicle the history of his 2012 race, it will be Mr. Santorum who will get credit for handing the victory to the Democrats. And if you don't believe it, just ask Mitt Romney.
Without his buddy Santorum in the contest, Mr. Romney could have taken a more moderate path to the nomination and would not have been dragged so far to the right in order to compete for the ultra-conservatives who didn't much cotton to Mr. Romney and were more comfy with the former Pennsylvania Senator.
The contrast between these two guys on the stump has also helped the president.
Mr. Santorum had a more down-to-earth style that his opponent desperately tried to immolate but just couldn't pull it off.
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Here on FR we will ride our ideological purity train straight into four more years of Obama.
We’d be happy with a candidate that’s conservative on 50% of the issues. Romney doesn’t cut it.
Right now, "winning it" as far as I'm concerned will be watching Obama wave goodbye as he boards Marine One next January 20th. And if Romney is the guy that makes this happen, well, I can live with that. Perry, Santorum, Gingrich and Paul certainly won't be.
I could be wrong but I've been noticing that a lot of those "I'll never vote for Romney" posters are from Freepers residing in hard blue states like California where they can "stand behind their principles" as it doesn't really matter. California will vote 60+% for Obama regardless.
Myself, on the other hand, am registered to vote in Florida. I don't have such a luxury. I want Obama out of the White House and I can't really sit on my ass come election day.
Romney is about as electable as Ford, Dole, and McCain.
His website is still asking for donations, and there is a contact person to make calls for PA. I’m planning to donate.
Here are the Pennsylvania contacts:
pennsylvania@ricksantorum.com
http://santorumcallcenter.blogspot.com/
allison@ricksantorum.com
bruce.barron0@gmail.com
Harrisburg
2250 Millenium Way
Enola, PA 17025
Hours: Monday - Sunday 9 am-9 pm
Pittsburgh
Seven Parkway Center, Suite 180
875 Greentree Road
Pittsburgh, PA 15220
Hours: Monday-Saturday 11am - 8pm, Sunday 2pm - 8pm
Here is the donation page:
https://www.ricksantorum.com/donatenow/
” . . . run the GOP elite out of town on a rail when this disaster is over.”
If Obama wins this election I would not expect there to be any more American presidential elections. Four more years of his one-man socialist autocratic rule by executive edict will put “finis” to the American constitutional federated republic.
Which is one more reason why he would STILL be a better nominee.
You think those guys lost because they were RINOs? Think again. Learn a little history.
Ford lost because he was the "post Watergate" President who pardoned Nixon. Republican fatigue. Dole? The economy was booming in '96. Reagan himself couldn't have beat Clinton in '96. We all had fat jobs. Why change captains? Of course, Clinton's "success" was largely due to Gingrich's congress forcing Clinton to the middle where he managed to take credit for not screwing things up. McCain in '08? Again, the Republican brand was so poisoned by Bush-fatigue and a crashing economy. Alvin Green himself would've won in '08.
It's a little different today. Jeez! Think about it. Put your brain into it and stop repeating these tired old memes.
In large measure, yes. They lost because they couldn't and/or wouldn't clearly draw out the difference between themselves and their Democrat opponents. The GOP needs bold colors, not pale pastels --and nobody is more pale pastel than Etch A Sketch.
We don’t need you Romneybots around FR.
The only Republican in the past 120+ years who has been able to oust a Democrat President was Ronald Reagan, and he didn’t do it by being a Romney-style moderate. He did it with bold colors, not pale pastels.
No serious person really believes that Mitt Romney will do anything to attempt the kind of reforms that we need. If anything, he’ll slow things down.
The big Republican victories of recent years — 1980, 1994, and 2010 — were achieved by running as unabashed conservatives. Candidates like Ford, Dole, and McCain lose — and that’s the kind of Republican that Romney is. Don’t believe it? Look around him — personnel is policy.
Santorum has principles; Romney doesn’t.
You can blow that bullshit out of your ass right now! My posting history clearly indicates that I was a Rick Perry supporter from the beginning. After that I switched to Gingrich. Check it out if you don't believe me.
At this point, I want Obama out of the White House and I'll vote for Romney to do so. I'm not going to sit on my ass come election day so take that Romneybot nonsense and shove it!
You’re clearly a Romneybot.
You’re clearly a Romneybot. The way you abuse anyone who dares to criticize Mittens shows it.
I for one can’t wait to hear the GOP excuses once the Bishop loses like the other three pale RINOs you mention above.
OK, so what is your path to success in 2012? Regale me. Sell me. Maybe you'll have my vote!
Get ready for the establishment who forced this chump on us to turn around and blame us for Romney's inevitable defeat. Yea, Romney is so strong that just yesterday the Dems got him to endorse a law Obama signed. Romney is the guy running as Obama-lite but it's all Santorum's fault. Ha!
Reagan claimed his political heros were Franklin Delano Roosevelt and John F. Kennedy.I'm too young to remember Reagan's 1980 campaign but I've lived through enough revisionist history to believe Common Tator is correct.Reagan spent 35 years of his life as a registered democrat and gave large sums of money and campaigned for FDR, HST, Stevenson, and JKF.
It was in 1962 or 63 that Cap Weinburger and Ed Meese thought if Reagan switched to the Republican party he could defeat Democrat Governor Brown in 1966. The problem was how to overcome the certain RINO image that Reagan was sure to get. NO RINO could get the Republican nomination.
There were few Republicans that wanted to get near Barry Goldwater in 1964. They felt he was the kiss of death. but Cap and Ed Meese decided that if Reagan contacted Goldwater and offered to give a prime time speech that a RINO coming out for Goldwater might help Goldwater pick up a few votes.
So Goldwater gave Reagan a prime time speech at the Republican convention Rather, Cronkite and Browkaw heard how good Reagan spoke and decided the way to end his life as a politician was to paint him as a Goldwater clone. So they did. And Reagan in one speech went from a far left RINO to a Goldwater Republican with out changing a view.
That gave him an easy primary victory in 1966 but he spent the 1966, 1970 and 1980 campaigns trying to convince swing voters that he was really a RINO.
Reagan in his years in office doubled the natioal debt. Had his buddy Democrat Speaker of the House Tip O’Neal over the the white house weekly. Reagan after 1964 never once met with or invited Barry Goldwater to vist him.
I covered the 1980 Reagan Campaign in the mid-west. The reporters had a bet on who could get him to say the words “Senator Goldwater” first. No one ever did. The winner of the money was a reporter who got reagan to say “The Senator from Arizona.”.. but Reagan would not call Goldwater by name.
Reagan in his 1980 campaign stump speech claimed that he was the only candidate for president that was a member in good standing of a Union and who had been elected twice to the presidency of his local union.
Reagan claimed in his stump speech that he had no love for big business. And that he had not ever left the Democratic party.. His views had not changed from the days of FDR and Kennedy. He said the Democratic party had left him.
From another Common Tator post
And Reagan ran in the industrial north as a Democrat who was still a Democrat in every thing but name. It was just that the Democratic party had changed ... not Reagan. I covered a lot of Reagan speeches in the industrial midwest. He never missed a chance to tell his audience how he had been a Democrat most of his life. He claimed that FDR was his political hero.And one moreThe reason he got more than half the union vote in Ohio was his FDR speech and his pitch that his economic policy was identical to the JFK economic policy. It really ticked Teddy Kennedy off every time Reagan claimed to be a Kennedy fan. Over and over I heard him say of his economic policy, "It worked for JFK and it will work for me."
I used to do an imitation of Reagan doing his, I have no love for big corporations act. REagan would say, "When I was just a small boy My Dad was let go by a big corporation on Christmas (SNIFF SNIFF) eve (SNIFF). It was our worst Christmas ever.(sniff) I have no special place in my (sniff) heart for big corporations."
The point to be made is that to defeat an incumbent a candidate has to get some voters to change their votes. Telling them they were dumb stupid idiots the last time they voted will only harden their support for the other guy.Reagan showed how to beat an incumbent in 1980.. He did not attack Jimmy Carter. What he did was offer plans and the impression that he would make a better president than Carter. Reagan convinced the voters that he would solve problems. Reagan knew better than to make voters defend their vote for Carter in 1980. He offered himself as a better choice in 1980. He did not try to prove that Carter was a bad choice in 1976.
If you want the boss to fire a someone and hire you in his place, first you have to convince him that you would do a much better job. Leave it to the boss to figure out the current job holder is doing a bad job. The same is true in politics.
You can see examples of how to lose when you study the attempts to defeat FDR and HST. Republicans attacked the incumbent. They were not about how to do a better job. And even in a continued depression FDR won. And in a recession and a screwed up foreign policy situation HST won. You win elections by convincing the voters that you can solve the problems.
It is far better to campaign on how to fix the problems than attack the man that holds the office. Attacks on incumbents do not work.
Actually they lie by 10% in their favor so he is only really down in CO by 2.
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