Tig, we are now in a world where fantasy rules. Liberal ideas are now mainstream thought on FR. I noted on another thread that the tactics of the ‘vote Romney’ clan are indistinguishable from regular libs on DU/KOS etc.
On this page we have a guy posting movie quotes while ignoring historical quotes from the Founding Fathers and another guy that’s bandying bait and switch liberalism ploys as a debate tactic. I really think that dispute Jim’s best efforts at rat control, they infected a lot of once good people. If this is how the modern conservative thinks, the rest of us better find a new name quick.
The reason for the latter is in the former. Manipulation and other disingenuous techniques of discussion are classic leftist traits but the reason for their employment is more fundamental than their ideology. It is the nature of self-delusion to try to cover for it with falsehoods and defensiveness. It is classically liberal to do that because their world view begins and ends with delusions. But it's the same with anyone who lives in denial no matter what the fantasy is.
The indefensible position requires monumental effort and intricacy of distorted logic to maintain it.