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To: brownsfan
I speculate that it’s the same reason we lost the public school system to leftists.
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I hope I can persuade you see to see this differently because your statement implies that if conservatives took back the government socialist-entitlement schools that somehow they would be fixed.

Modern “public” schools have never been lost. Since their beginnings ( mid-1800s to early 1900s) government socialist-entitlement schooling was a pushed by Progressives of the time. Progressives have always controlled teacher training and curriculum development. The very foundation of compulsory attendance, compulsory-use, and socialist-entitlement schooling **is** Progressive.

While socialist-entitlement government schooling may not have seemed so bad at first was due to the values of the teachers. For instance, my father ( born 1913) lived with and dearly loved his Civil War veteran great grandfather. The teachers were still close enough to our pioneer and founding roots that it masked the evil of the socialism at the root of all government schooling.

We will see the same with Obamacare. At first it won't be so bad due to the values of the health professionals and administrators trained under the old system. In a generation or two, that is when we will see the true horror of socialist-entitlement health care.

Solution: Begin the process of completely privatizing universal K-12 education.

Solution: There are entire states and whole counties in this nation where, if conservatives immediately removed their kids, the government socialist-entitlement schools would utterly collapse.

20 posted on 04/11/2012 6:29:44 AM PDT by wintertime (Reforming a government K-12 school is like reforming an abortion center.)
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To: wintertime

“I hope I can persuade you see to see this differently because your statement implies that if conservatives took back the government socialist-entitlement schools that somehow they would be fixed.”

You raise good points.

If conservatives became involved in public schools, they’d be better, but not fixed. While the same commies that teach now, would still teach, they’d be more supervised with conservatives involved. Teachers tend to be weak, followers. It’s a generalization, about teachers being weak, but I stand by it. Teachers, in general, can be molded and led. So, while teachers may favor socialism, and communism, they will bend to the will of a strong school board.

But that only mitigates the problems, it doesn’t fix them.

An educated populace is critical to our mutual success. Privatize with vouchers? It would help, but there will be “progressive” schools even with privatization.

There is no perfect solution. However, if we all pay attention to what is going on in the schools, it will be better than what we have now... indoctrination facilities.


25 posted on 04/11/2012 6:53:40 AM PDT by brownsfan (Aldous Huxley and Mike Judge were right.)
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