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To: gaijin

I still need someone to explain to me how the State of Florida, or the Feds for that matter, can proceed without empaneling a Grand Jury. Unles they are going to charge Zimmerman with something other than “a capital or otherwise infamous crime”, like a misdemeanor, a Grand Jury is a Fifth Amendment right.


14 posted on 04/10/2012 6:17:43 PM PDT by cumbo78
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To: cumbo78

A GJ is only required for a Federal matter. That part of the 5th Amendment hasn’t been incorporated to the States yet.


17 posted on 04/10/2012 6:20:19 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: cumbo78
I still need someone to explain to me how the State of Florida, or the Feds for that matter, can proceed without empaneling a Grand Jury.

I was under the impression that a capital crime is one that carries the death penalty, like 1st degree murder, which I don't think anyone, even the most anti-Zimmerman folks, believes will be the charge.

19 posted on 04/10/2012 6:21:44 PM PDT by Aunt Polgara
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To: cumbo78

No.

According to Wikipedia, the prosecutor will call a grand jury, if the prosecutor thinks they may have a weak case. It’s to give 12 capable citizens a chance to review the evidence to see if a case can be made to prosecute or not.

If the prosecutor chooses to not call a grand jury, it’s because the prosecutor believes the evidence is clear enough to make a decision on.


26 posted on 04/10/2012 6:29:33 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: cumbo78
I still need someone to explain to me how the State of Florida, or the Feds for that matter, can proceed without empaneling a Grand Jury. Unles they are going to charge Zimmerman with something other than “a capital or otherwise infamous crime”, like a misdemeanor, a Grand Jury is a Fifth Amendment right.

you have the right to the jury trial (6th amendment), but "capital crime" refers to something for which you could get the death penalty.

I think you can read her decision to not empanel a grand jury as two fold: They're not going to charge him with premeditated murder, and they want there to be a trial and don't trust a grand jury to not give him the 'Joe Horn' treatment.

47 posted on 04/10/2012 6:43:43 PM PDT by Gunslingr3
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To: cumbo78

Grand jury and jury are two different things. Without the grand jury murder 1 is off the table.


61 posted on 04/10/2012 6:52:01 PM PDT by meatloaf (Support House Bill 1380 to eliminate oil slavery.)
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To: cumbo78

Special Prosecutors have , at least in Michigan, wide powers which includes making them virtual one person grand juries with the ability to prefer charges independent of the GJ system.


116 posted on 04/10/2012 9:07:35 PM PDT by robowombat
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To: cumbo78; All
-- I still need someone to explain to me how the State of Florida, or the Feds for that matter, can proceed without empaneling a Grand Jury. Unles they are going to charge Zimmerman with something other than “a capital or otherwise infamous crime”, like a misdemeanor, a Grand Jury is a Fifth Amendment right.

If I understood Rush today, the GJ only comes into play if Murder 1 is in play.

Anybody commenting in here may have more re FL procedure.

118 posted on 04/10/2012 9:26:29 PM PDT by QT3.14 ( European-American (/sarc))
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