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Jet crash in Virginia Beach fiery, not deadly
AP via Fox ^ | 07 Apr 2012

Posted on 04/07/2012 9:37:33 AM PDT by Drew68

Zooming along at 170 mph in a fighter jet carrying thousands of pounds of volatile fuel, two Navy pilots faced nothing but bad choices when their aircraft malfunctioned over Virginia's most populated city.

"Catastrophic engine system failure right after takeoff, which is always the most critical phase of flying, leaves very, very few options," said aviation safety expert and decorated pilot J.F. Joseph. "You literally run out of altitude, air speed and ideas all at the same time," he said.

Somehow, however, the student pilot and his instructor and everyone on the ground survived Friday when the men ejected from their F/A-18D jet moments before it crashed in a fireball in an apartment complex courtyard. The pilots and five on the ground were hurt, but all but one aviator were out of the hospital hours later.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: fa18d; frs; jetcrash; trainingflight; usnavy; vfa106; virginiabeach
Incredible. I saw this on the news yesterday and I was certain from the damage that there would be many fatalities. Glad I was wrong.
1 posted on 04/07/2012 9:37:36 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: Drew68

You, me and everyone else!


2 posted on 04/07/2012 9:40:33 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (I'd vote for a "orange juice can", before 0bummer&HisRegimeFromHell, gets another 4yrs. Can-> later.)
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To: Drew68

fortunatley, God cut them some slack.


3 posted on 04/07/2012 9:42:27 AM PDT by brivette
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To: brivette

One of the commentators said yesterday it would be a “Good Friday/Passover Miracle” if no one was killed. Guess that’s what it is!


4 posted on 04/07/2012 9:46:18 AM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: smoothsailing; jazusamo

My first exposure to news since yesterday that points to no causalities. Pinging in case you didn’t know.


5 posted on 04/07/2012 9:49:35 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Newt/Sarah 2012)
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To: Drew68
I can't help thinking, if no unlisted guests are found in the rubble, that this one will be named The Miracle of Virginia Beach.
Although there are some better areas to allow the plane to crash in the general vicinity, there is no such place when in a fatally crippled aircraft which is totally unresponsive.
6 posted on 04/07/2012 9:50:51 AM PDT by Publius6961 (A)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Since no one died, at least one of the MSM scumbags will trot out some talking head who will claim that there had been no reason to ditch the plane, and that the pilot should be prosecuted. Thanks Drew68.


7 posted on 04/07/2012 9:52:01 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (FReepathon 2Q time -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Drew68

We know it was luck that no one was killed. There could have been many deaths.

Did they report how many evacuated immediately? Or was it just that no one was home?


8 posted on 04/07/2012 10:03:49 AM PDT by cicero2k
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To: Drew68

Is there any backup electrical power on F-18s after the turbine flames out?


9 posted on 04/07/2012 10:15:25 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: SunkenCiv

I remember reading an article in “Approach” the safety magazine for Naval Aviation (Navy & USMC) telling of a low level high speed instrument training mission in an A-4.

500 feet AGL (above ground level), 250 knots, the student (STUD) in the back seat under “the hood” (a light fabric pull-over dome blocking outside vision) flying by instruments alone.

Instructor pilot (IP) in the front seat, watching for other aircraft, radio towers, etc.

The aircraft hit a large bird (believed to have been a buzzard) which shattered the windscreen, the remains landing in the IP’s lap.

STUD in the back seat hears a BANG!, feels 250 knots of wind buffeting the cockpit, and sees blood & guts (the buzzard’s) streaming around the back of the front seat.

STUD thinks - Explosion! IP is dead! I’m at 500’ AGL, 250 kts AND under the Hood. Time to leave!

STUD ejects!

IP in front seat, windscreen gone, dead buzzard in his lap, feathers in his mouth, 250kts of wind buffeting him, hears & feels STUD eject.

IP thinks, “500’ AGL, 250Kts, can’t see instruments! STUD must know something I don’t know and the IP ejects.

When asked why he ejected from a flyable aircraft, the STUD explains to the Accident Board, which muses a bit and says, “Well, it was flyable, but given the circumstances, your decision was valid.”

IP sanding tall in front of the Board gets same question. Explains his reasoning. Again, the Board muses a bit and says, “Well, it was flyable, but given the circumstances, your decision was valid.”

BTW, I’ve hit both a swallow (on the windscreen in a Jet Ranger) and a seagull (at night, in the dead-center of the nose avionics hatch in a CH-53, at night) At 110 or 150 mph a bird strike makes a LOT of noise! Both really got my attention!


10 posted on 04/07/2012 10:21:26 AM PDT by BwanaNdege (Man has often lost his way, but modern man has lost his address - Gilbert K. Chesterton)
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To: Drew68

And the Media machine is disappointed...


11 posted on 04/07/2012 10:29:43 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Newt says, "A nominee that depresses turnout won't beat Barack Obama.")
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To: Drew68; Gene Eric; smoothsailing

Thank God! This is a genuine miracle there was no loss of life.

Thanks for posting, Drew and for the ping, Gene.


12 posted on 04/07/2012 10:47:47 AM PDT by jazusamo (Character assassination is just another form of voter fraud: Thomas Sowell)
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To: newzjunkey
And the Media machine is disappointed...

Maybe we'll see something like "White pilots crash plane in minority neighborhood."

13 posted on 04/07/2012 11:16:15 AM PDT by NewHampshireDuo
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To: Drew68

Thank GOD.


14 posted on 04/07/2012 11:25:57 AM PDT by Levante
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To: Jack Hydrazine
I believe they have a RAT “ram air turbine” for electrical backupbut i could be wrong im not sure on the F18
15 posted on 04/07/2012 11:30:36 AM PDT by tophat9000 (American is Barack Oaken)
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To: NewHampshireDuo
Maybe we'll see something like "White pilots crash plane in minority neighborhood."

LOL! I'm sure Jesse and Al are carefully researching the demographics while privately lamenting the lack of carnage.

16 posted on 04/07/2012 11:33:41 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: Drew68

Thank You, Lord God, for a Passover / Easter miracle! May the lives You spared be lived for Your glory!


17 posted on 04/07/2012 12:29:40 PM PDT by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: BwanaNdege

Is it correct that the IP managed to dump some fuel before crashing?

These guys can do some amazing things.


18 posted on 04/07/2012 12:45:56 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Half the people are below average.)
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To: BwanaNdege

500 feet and 500 knots, I dodged a number of buzzards, looked at my flight lead, and then...*#@$ there was one that I hadn’t seen. Blew a hole 3 feet wide in my F-4 canopy. The F-4 glass is about 1/2 inch thick. Needless to say it got my attention. Fortunately, both my back seater and I were just fine. But there was one chunk of canopy shaped like a sharp knife, poking me in my left arm. But no cuts, no abrasions, just a lot of noise. We were blessed!!


19 posted on 04/07/2012 2:39:48 PM PDT by LukeSW (The truth shall make you free!)
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To: LukeSW

Ouch!

Man, you were blessed!

....aren’t we all....


20 posted on 04/07/2012 5:50:58 PM PDT by BwanaNdege (Man has often lost his way, but modern man has lost his address - Gilbert K. Chesterton)
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