[Future Snake Eater]

I remember during the 2008 campaign there was all this chatter about how electing Obama would finally put our sins against blacks to rest, that race would no longer be an issue.

Rush Limbaugh scoffed at that and cited David Dinkins (former NYC mayor) as evidence—the same thing was said about his election, but race relations got much worse.

Now we’re seeing it on the national level and it’s getting worse pretty fast.

Once again, Rush was right.

[mrsmel]

Derbyshire has imstigated that infamous "honest conversation about race" that Holder claimed we (whites) don't have the courage to have. He was right, up until now (and I hope more people start speaking up, the truth has been suppressed long enough) we haven't had that honest talk.

Of course, any whites except the DWL knew that what Holder meant by "honesty" was yet another opportunity for whites to beat their breasts while decrying their sin of being white, the sin of being a member of a race which is the definitive success story in history. It's the sin of having standards of achievement and principles of morality which they have mostly lived up to even in adversity. (Never forget it was white blood which was overwhelmingly spilled to end slavery. Slavery continues in Africa).

The only conversation Holder et al wanted was the same old tired one where whites stand before the black tribunal and confess the sins of a small minority of our forefathers in order to reinforce black victimisation amd white oppression as the scapegoat for black failure in every nation or city in which they are the majority and/or the ruling government bar none.

He did not want the really honest conversation on race in which crime stats which black crime, whether against other blacks or whites, to be magnitudes higher than white crime. He didn't want the conversation which shows that black males from families in higher socioeconomic levels still have higher crime rates, higher drop-out rates, lower SAT scores than whites in comparable families or even white kids from lower SES backgrounds. So poverty can't be blamed, lack pf parental involvement can't be blamed-what does explain this? "Regression to the mean" gives a hint to the root of the overall problems.

[jocon307]

“Rush Limbaugh scoffed at that and cited David Dinkins (former NYC mayor) as evidence...”

I didn’t hear Rush invoke the esteemed Mayor Dinkins, but Obama could take a lesson from that re-election campaign.

It was Dinkins’ lack of response to the Crown Heights Riots that were started when an Orthodox Jewish guy accidently ran down and killed a little black kid that doomed his campaign.

I also remember a Wm. F. Buckley column recounting an appearance by then president Clinton during which he hectored his NYC audience that they must re-elected Dinkins to prove they weren’t racists. As Buckely put it, the NYC residents didn’t appreciate hearing this from a man whose home state needed Federal Troops sent in to de-segregate their schools.

Rudy Giuliani who had lost to Dinkins previously was elected.

And the rest, as they say, is history.