Posted on 04/07/2012 3:10:04 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
TX (155) proportional
The Texax SREC is making noise about trying to change the Texas allocation method to a ‘winner take all’. Apparently some are trying to get enough votes and then call an emergency session to pass the change. Not sure what the possibility of it passing is.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2868680/posts
A lot bigger delegate allocation to states which actually deliver electoral votes to the GOP in the fall and a lot less to those which have a consistent history of delivering none.
DC, for example, should not get any more delegates than American Samoa. No way should California get more than Texas.
A lot bigger delegate allocation to states which actually deliver electoral votes to the GOP in the fall and a lot less to those which have a consistent history of delivering none.
DC, for example, should not get any more delegates than American Samoa. No way should California get more than Texas.
No they won't. The GOPE would rather lose the election to Obama than win with a conservative. They hated Reagan and they hate Newt who is the only conservative in this race.
I agree with the Dodo picture about the future of the GOP.
The GOP has shown itself to be uwholly unworthy of protecting this country.
In the 20 years since 1992, the GOP has been feckless in defeating the Dems, in spite of our efforts to infuse conservative principles and candidates into it.When they were put into power withthe House, the Senate and the White House, they failed to lead and to get the problems under control, but made things exponentially worse. Thye failed to do the hard work of convicting a lawless, impeached President. They have failed to counter a lawless, ineligible President in the face of his constant trashing of the Constitution.
This is the most important election of our lifetimes, and I rank it among 1860 and 1980 in the effects on the future of America. And for this, we are beign given Romney, who does not have a Reublican or conservative bone in his body.
I’m all in for Newt and praying he gets to Tampa and we have some kind of showdown in Tampa. My back-up position is ABO in case Romney becomes our nominee.
But win or lose after 11/6, I believe it is time for the GOP to go the way of the Whigs. Conservatives need their own party to get America back to greatness, and the GOP is no longer the vehicle to do so.
Just like there comes a time when the old clunker needs to be retired and money for repairs directed towards a new vehicle, thus it is such for the GOP.
After 2012, we need to have a third party. America will survive. And thrive if we do so.
Exactly. I won’t support a GOP that backs Mitt.
The only way to make the GOP take notice is to cut off their funding though the RNC.
I have a friend who is a longtime party operative and she actually thinks that everything is fine, that they are raising more money than ever, etc.
There are many lemming GOP members. The question is whether or not there are enough of us Conservatives to make our voices heard.
I fear not. It’s ALL about the money for the future of the GOP unless big donors cut off the party’s allowance.
After 2012, we need to have a third party.
Plenty out there now. Just make your choice.
Some but not all.......
America First Party
Christian Liberty Party
America’s Party
American Party
Independent American Party
Americans Elect
Citizens Party
Independence Party of America
Modern Whig Party
Reform Party of the United States of America
Unity Party of America
Justice Party USA
Working Families Party
Labor Party
Socialist Party USA
Communist Party USA
Socialist Labor Party of America*
Party for Socialism and Liberation
Socialist Equality Party (United States)
Socialist Workers Party
Freedom Socialist Party
Socialist Action
Socialist Alternative
Workers World Party
American Populist Party
Boston Tea Party
Jefferson Republican Party
Objectivist Party
American Reform Party
Constitution Party
Green Party
Libertarian Party
“Romney win, now almost certain, won’t decide future of GOP”
Yes it will. A Republican party that would nominate a man whose record is left wing enough to be a Democrat is not a party that any conservative could support. It is a sign that the GOP is willing to move to the left. And if so, so be it. I won’t go with it; I would think some others would not also.
Anyone looking at the creation of a new party needs to take a look at history and how its been done in the past. The transition from Whig to Republican wasn’t a simple step. It required the transition through the short lived Freesoil party which few people have ever heard of.
They never elected a president but did elect a fair number of congressmen. Most important they attracted abolitionist Democrats and Whigs who became the GOP.
If what you say is true...and it may be...why are we still voting Republican? What good is this party? What’s the point?
I voted for Bob Barr in ‘08 and was roundly castigated by some on this board and others for admitting such...if the GOP is going to allow the msm to pick our nominee every four years...what is the point of having the GOP?
What’s the party good for?
As far as the illustration of the shape of the GOP, he emphasized the size of the “Populist” branch in the party as being much larger than it actually is. The “Plutocrat” branch is correctly in charge, and always will be, because they have the ability to organize.
The “Populist” branch is nothing more that a fragmented, disorganized herd of cats and never will get it together like they keep threatening to do. Ross Perot is the epitome of that branch and took it to the limits of it's potential.
Ronald Reagan was a rare politician who, through his vast ability and pragmatic approach, was able to gather these groups together for two election cycles in a row. And Reagan clearly admitted that the “Populist” branch, was the most difficult to appease or influence, mainly because of their incessant malcontent and nearly psychotic negativity.
The party is bigger than the presidency. The GOP was 'dead' in 92, 'dead' in 96, 'dead' in 2006/2008. The problem is most conservatives are too uninformed and more-so too impatient to fight the party battles needed.
How many people are precinct delegates or precinct captains? How many are involved in local parties? How many have been delegates to state conventions? State convention is also were our state RNC reps are chosen.
The future of the GOP may have been decided in 1936, when Alf Landon promised to implement the New Deal on a business-like approach. How many conservatives have been the nominee since that time?
The problem is Obama. He is not the typical democrat that we can continue to put up with for another 4 years. He is EVIL and MUST BE REMOVED at all costs!
Didn't George W. Romney essentially endorse LBJ in 1964? He said that he "accepted" but did not "endorse" Goldwater.
Who's the candidate who could win?
“How many people are precinct delegates or precinct captains?”
Generally, people who keep threatening to go third party lack the foresight and discipline to work inside the party to reform it. They wrongly think that threats work. nope - VOTES work.
The biggest myth around here is that the elites dictate what happens. Actually, its the GOP primaries, and GOP primary voters, who dictate the course of the party. and who influences that vote? precinct captains and those involved in primary campaigns are key. the top dogs (’elites’) have sway but its actually not much compared with the power of the grassroots.
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