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To: sinsofsolarempirefan

“I don’t know and I don’t care.”

You brought up the point about US selling to Saudi. You should know and you should care.


10 posted on 04/06/2012 11:40:48 AM PDT by ravager
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To: ravager
You were the one who brought up the point about Britain selling stuff to the Saudis like it mattered when the US has been doing the exact same thing on a much larger scale.

This isn't a contest about who is the biggest Israelophile, Britain wants to buy something from Israel, and Israel wants to sell. They can sell to us, or they can cut their noses off to spite their face and not sell it to us.

It would actually be in Israel's interests to engage us in more trade like this, because at the moment, Britain has more trade interests with the likes of Saudi Arabia than with Israel, which is why it is often reluctant to take a pro-Israeli line.

Israel should be hawking its military hardware and other products to as many other nations as possible and making itself indispensable in order to give these nations a vested interest in supporting Israel politically.

Right now, the reason why most countries in the world indulge the Arabs in their constant butthurt over Israel and Palestine is because they have most of the oil their economies depended on and they aren't above using that fact to wield political and diplomatic influence(aremember the oil crisis in 1973, when OAPEC threw their teddies out of the pram over western support of Israel during the Yom Kippur War?)

Israel is the last country in the world that has the luxury of being able to alienate other countries out of spite. The oil-rich Arab nations and Iran have that luxury to a large extent, which is one of the why the latter has been flipping the bird to the west for so long and getting away with it. Israel's unfavourable strategic position means that needs to make friends and influence people, not piss them off.

11 posted on 04/06/2012 1:19:09 PM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: ravager
You were the one who brought up the point about Britain selling stuff to the Saudis like it mattered when the US has been doing the exact same thing on a much larger scale.

This isn't a contest about who is the biggest Israelophile, Britain wants to buy something from Israel, and Israel wants to sell. They can sell to us, or they can cut their noses off to spite their face and not sell it to us.

It would actually be in Israel's interests to engage us in more trade like this, because at the moment, Britain has more trade interests with the likes of Saudi Arabia than with Israel, which is why it is often reluctant to take a pro-Israeli line.

Israel should be hawking its military hardware and other products to as many other nations as possible and making itself indispensable in order to give these nations a vested interest in supporting Israel politically.

Right now, the reason why most countries in the world indulge the Arabs in their constant butthurt over Israel and Palestine is because they have most of the oil their economies depended on and they aren't above using that fact to wield political and diplomatic influence(aremember the oil crisis in 1973, when OAPEC threw their teddies out of the pram over western support of Israel during the Yom Kippur War?)

Israel is the last country in the world that has the luxury of being able to alienate other countries out of spite. The oil-rich Arab nations and Iran have that luxury to a large extent, which is one of the why the latter has been flipping the bird to the west for so long and getting away with it. Israel's unfavourable strategic position means that she needs to make friends and influence people, not piss them off.

12 posted on 04/06/2012 1:19:31 PM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan
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