“at the end of the day if they would have needed the votes to raise the debt ceiling to AVOID DEFAULT there would have been others to vote for it that did not” -Don Bates
The debt ceiling had nothing to do with default. NOTHING. This “talking point” on default is a gop establishment fraud.
First, thank you for posting that interview. It is fantastic and I had not seen the whole thing before.I encourage everyone to view it.
In the abbreviated quote that you pulled from the video you capitalized two words “AVOID DEFAULT”, you failed to capitalize the one word that makes this relevant. The word “IF”. Bates is clearly stating what he believes the GOP would have done IF the situation had been one where a yes vote was required to avoid default. I can’t argue with that. If the situation had been that scenario, I have no doubt that more people would have voted for the bill. It wasn’t, so they didn’t. I don’t see the “gotcha” moment.
If we want to talk about fraud, the entire prospect of a debt ceiling at all is a fraud. The mentality of our government is that the ceiling can always be raised so therefore we don’t have to “really” stick by it, let’s just continue spending because after all, it can always be raised. As a financial advisor, that is why Bates has put such high priority on that fact that we MUST stop the spending.
Now Travis, that was an interesting road trip but let’s get back to your orginal questions and complaints.
*When and where has Bates every categorically said that we must raise the debt ceiling? (And I wouldn’t try to use the same video for this because it won’t fly. You know perfectly well that he is speaking about our ever increasing spending/debt.)
*When and where has Bates been to the left of Messer on education?