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To: allmendream
I'm not changing anything defining treason.
You don't believe that there is a Communist plan of over 60 years to overthrow the US.
You have your head firmly planted in the sand, whistling past the grave yard so to speak.
There is no hope for you. You have been brainwashed beyond any semblance of rational and objective reasoning. This is why you have to base your argument on fantastic scenarios that I have never uttered or insinuated. Let's agree to disagree and leave it at that.
75 posted on 04/06/2012 9:10:30 AM PDT by RavenLooneyToon (Tail gunner Joe was right.)
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To: RavenLooneyToon
OMG!!! It is a COMMUNIST PLOT! So we must definitely change our Constitution and the freedoms it guarantees under such a diabolical threat!!!/s

Your list has no credibility. It was not a record of the actual goals of the USSR and even if it was, basing what treason is or isn't on it would be subordinating our Constitution and our law to a list of supposed goals of our enemies.

There is obviously no hope for you to see that just because something would oppose the goals of Communism based upon your fictitious list - doesn't make it Constitutional. Just because something would further the goals on your fictitious list doesn't make it treason.

But I find it is like trying to convince a liberal that the Constitution doesn't cover anything the government wants to do so long as it is “fair” or “a good thing” - your mind evidently doesn't work that way.

Apparently to you, anything that goes along with your silly fictional list is treason, and anything that opposes it is patriotic - and nevermind the Constitution.

I suppose our founding fathers would have found a national health care law under the supposed power granted over interstate commerce to be a “fantastic scenario” - but here we are. An idea that is a good idea can withstand such “what if?” scenarios.

Your idea is a piss poor one based upon the primacy of a fictional list by an not credible Mormon author over our Constitution. As such it doesn't bear up well under questioning.

Thus your attempts to make this about me being “brainwashed” instead of addressing the obvious fatal flaws of your formulation.

Your list is fictional.

Even if it was real, it wouldn't redefine treason.

Basing treason on what the supposed goals of your foes are is idiotic - while basing treason on how it is defined in our Constitution is conservative thoughtful and wise.

76 posted on 04/06/2012 9:28:54 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to DC to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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