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And, oh; what is your problem with the name calling? Typical bully. You remind me of the overweight lard-asses in my grade school in the 1950s, literally throwing their weight around until some skinny ass kid with an attitude kicked your sorry asses, and you ran crying home to your mothers.

We'll dispense with this first:

Post 17 - mkjessup to ought-six

"Give your head a shake pal"

Oh I can see where that might have hurt your delicate sensitivities.

Post 48 - ought-six to mkjessup

"Hey, snark. I guess you were against Ronald Reagan challenging Ford in 1976."

'Snark', looks like you began that abominable 'name calling' first.

And I responded in kind:

Post 49 - mkjessup to ought-six

"No dumb ass, I wasn’t. I worked in Reagan’s campaign in ‘76 AND in ‘80, and ‘84.
I was pointing out the difficulty of overcoming the advantage of incumbency.
Give your head a shake.

Post 54 - ought-six to mkjessup

"Hey, knuckledragger..."

Just like Pogo, 'you has met the enemy and he is you'.
Guess you'll have to run home crying to your mother now.

Moving right along...

“Now just for sh*ts and giggles, name the last sitting President to be denied renomination for a second term by his party.”
LBJ. His own party’s kingpins told him not to seek re-election.

Name your source. What 'kingpins'?

So, although he was not “primaried” in the true sense of the word, he got the message and voluntarily withdrew.

So, you are citing an event that isn't even applicable. Had Johnson chosen to run for another term, there is little doubt that the Democratic Party would have renominated him, and you know that. 'Clean Gene' didn't have a prayer and even Gene knew it.

If you want to have a rational adult conversation, then let’s have it. However, if you want to remain in grade school you’ll be there alone.

Physician heal thyself.

‘Clean Gene?’ Eugene McCarthy was not a real threat to LBJ in 1968 (though he did scare him in New Hampshire); hell, even Muskie toyed with the idea of challenging LBJ (though he never committed). But RFK was the real threat.

McCarthy did challenge LBJ in the primaries (well, I think the NH primary was the only one before LBH announced he wasn’t going to seek re-election), and though LBJ “won,” McCarthy was right on his heels.

Four days after the March 12, 1968 NH primary, RFK announced his candidacy. LBJ’s internal polls showed he would not win the next primary (Wisconsin). So on March 31, 1968 LBJ announced to the nation that he would not seek re-election. Immediately LBJ’s VP, Hubert Humphrey announced his candidacy, and George Wallace ran under a third-party ticket.

Just as Republican insiders went to Nixon in 1974 and told him he needed to step down or face impeachment, so Democrat insiders went to LBJ in 1968 and told him he needed to bow out. LBJ was EXTREMELY unpopular in 1968.

But there was no way LBJ would have beat RFK for the nomination.