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To: taxcontrol
George Zimmerman is a concerned citizen who protects his neighborhood by volunteering in the local watch program

, And all that he was authorized to do was to watch. Not confront

and is legally allowed to carry a firearm. George was out on patrol as part of the watch program,

Zimmerman was not authorized to confront ANYONE. Carrying the gun made him feel like he was a policeman.

identified a situation that was abnormal enough to contact the 911 emergency number and request the police.

And what was that abnormal situation? Zimmerman observed and reported NO CRIME. He did not report Martin breaking into a car. Ne did not report Martin peeking into windows. The "abnormal situation" was in Zimmerman's own mind

He then attempted to maintain eye contact with the suspect and when he lost sight of them, returned towards his vehicle when he was attacked and viciously beaten by a punk kid who tried to take his firearm from him.

Nothing you have posted here is supported by the facts. There is no evidence that Martin "tried to take Zimmerman's firearm". What you have posted is total BS

George then shot the kid during the struggle.

Yes he shot Martin because Zimmerman was losing the fight that he most likely started with his actions of trying to play wanna-be cop. At no time is there any evidence that Zimmerman was attacked with anything except fists. Yet he decided to respond to fists with a gun. That is over the line

He remained at the location and received medical treatment by the EMS for the injuries received which included a broken nose.

In the police tape showing Zimmerman immediately AFTER the fight there is NO indication of a "broken nose" as Zimmerman claims. There are no dressings on Zimmerman's face or even on the back of his head.

Zimmerman is lying. Even the police investigating this case did not believe Zimmerman's story. They recommended filing manslaughter and reckless endangerment charges against Zimmerman. The truth will come out
61 posted on 04/01/2012 12:34:44 PM PDT by Rooivalk
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To: Rooivalk

Nice try. BACKFIRE!


72 posted on 04/01/2012 12:49:56 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (Anyone not wanting an ID or purple thumb to vote isn't worthy of voting privilege.)
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To: Rooivalk
And all that he was authorized to do was to watch. Not confront

Nor is there any evidence that he did anything other than watch.

Zimmerman was not authorized to confront ANYONE. Carrying the gun made him feel like he was a policeman.

Again, there is no evidence that Zimmerman confronted Martin. As to your other observation, it sounds like attempted mind-reading.

And what was that abnormal situation? Zimmerman observed and reported NO CRIME. He did not report Martin breaking into a car. Ne did not report Martin peeking into windows. The "abnormal situation" was in Zimmerman's own mind

One need not be doing anything illegal in order to legitimately appear suspicious. Here is what Zimmerman saw and reported:

"Hey we've had some break-ins in my neighborhood, and there's a real suspicious guy, uh, [near] Retreat View Circle, um, the best address I can give you is 111 Retreat View Circle. This guy looks like he's up to no good, or he's on drugs or something. It's raining and he's just walking around, looking about."

He answers the operator's questions seeking a description, then continues: "He's here now and he’s just staring …looking at all the houses. Now he's just staring at me."
A person acting strangely, loitering in the rain and "looking at all the houses."

Yes he shot Martin because Zimmerman was losing the fight that he most likely started with his actions of trying to play wanna-be cop.

You are again mind-reading, and again introducing your own assumptions, not the actual known facts. There is nothing wrong with speculating - we're just internet forum commenters - but to say it is "most likely" despite the absence of any known facts is silly.

At no time is there any evidence that Zimmerman was attacked with anything except fists. Yet he decided to respond to fists with a gun. That is over the line

Not legally.

In the police tape showing Zimmerman immediately AFTER the fight there is NO indication of a "broken nose" as Zimmerman claims. There are no dressings on Zimmerman's face or even on the back of his head.

Read this: His neighbor saw him the next day, swollen, bruised and bandaged.

74 posted on 04/01/2012 12:50:29 PM PDT by PhatHead
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To: Rooivalk

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77 posted on 04/01/2012 12:52:19 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Rooivalk

At no time is there any evidence that Zimmerman was attacked with anything except fists. Yet he decided to respond to fists with a gun. That is over the line

How many people die or are seriously injured from injuries sustained by another human being without a weapon? And if you are unconcious whats to prevent the attacker from locating a weapon such as a board, pipe etc and finishing you off? There are no rules and no refereesw in street fights in case you didnt know that. The winner decides when to quit beating the tar out of you and if he so desires will not quit until you are dead or someone stops him. Pleas for help went unanswered, what would you do? The pleas for help did not stop Martin, no one else stopped Martin, the bullet did.

fistfight deaths most by hitting head on concrete:

http://www.myfoxboston.com/dpp/news/undercover/exclusive-man-charged-in-fistfight-death-speaks-out-20101013

http://www.ocregister.com/articles/goodrich-308653-baird-victim.html

http://news.yahoo.com/video/houston11news-15750765/family-defends-man-killed-in-road-rage-fist-fight-28542053.html#crsl=%252Fvideo%252Fhouston11news-15750765%252Ffamily-defends-man-killed-in-road-rage-fist-fight-28542053.html

http://www.youtube.com/verify_age?next_url=/watch%3Fv%3DaLEBBJi-R9c

http://abcnews.go.com/US/video/fatal-fight-caught-on-tape-11445425

http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2010/06/parma_man_dies_after_fighting.html

http://www.mlive.com/news/kalamazoo/index.ssf/2010/10/kalamazoo_public_safety_invest.html


83 posted on 04/01/2012 12:55:06 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: Rooivalk

Why do you believe a citizen of a community does not have the right to confront someone who is trespassing/traveling through (depending on your point of view) that citizen’s community?


106 posted on 04/01/2012 1:15:27 PM PDT by MortMan (Americans are a people increasingly separated by our connectivity.)
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To: Rooivalk
On a typical case, police contact the state attorney's office and speak with an on-duty assistant state attorney; they either discuss the matter by phone or the on-duty assistant state attorney comes to the crime scene. Investigators spoke to the on-duty assistant state attorney who did not come to the scene --- but State Attorney Wolfinger did.

Sanford Police Chief Bill Lee, along with Capt. Robert O'Connor, made the decision to release George Zimmerman after consulting with State Attorney Norman Wolfinger --- in person. After a conversation between Lee, O'Connor and Wolfinger, the decision was made to "cut Zimmerman loose".

Homicide investigator Chris Serino filed an affidavit stating that he did not believe Zimmerman's account of the shooting. He recommended charging the 28-year-old with manslaughter, but was advised by Wolfinger's office that there wasn't enough evidence to secure a conviction. Zimmerman was subsequently released.

If true, the account may explain why Wolfinger recused himself from the case, on the same day Lee announced he was stepping aside.

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210 posted on 04/01/2012 3:16:26 PM PDT by Alice in Wonderland
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To: Rooivalk
According to Tracy Martin, the Sanford police recounted this sequence of events: Trayvon Martin walked up to Zimmerman’s vehicle and asked why he was following him. Zimmerman denied following the youth and rolled up the car window. Minutes after Trayvon walked away, Zimmerman got out of his vehicle.

Surely that would be on the 911 tape where Zimmerman says Martin is "checking me out"? But I don't hear it. Why would Zimmerman make that up - he had to know his call was being recorded? Or, why would the cops make that up - to get dad to back down? How's that working?

232 posted on 04/01/2012 3:47:44 PM PDT by Alice in Wonderland
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