Posted on 03/31/2012 4:44:41 PM PDT by Krankor
As the Trayvon Martin controversy splinters into a debate about self-defense, a central question remains: Who was heard crying for help on a 911 call in the moments before the teen was shot?
A leading expert in the field of forensic voice identification sought to answer that question by analyzing the recordings for the Orlando Sentinel.
His result: It was not George Zimmerman who called for help.
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This poster is willfully misrepresenting witness statements in order to advance an agenda.
The autopsy revealed that the bullet entered the back of the head and exited through the forehead.
You'll understand if, at this point, we don't believe anything you post.
Nothing like a little selective editing, eh? Did you miss this part?
“After the larger man got off and then there was a boy, obviously now dead, on the ground facing down.”
ROFL. It’s not even a matter of determining exit and entry wounds. Only one wound was reported. A chest wound.
Good grief, the MSM thinks we will not remember that weeks ago kid’s dad told the press/cops that the screams were NOT his son.
Sigh.
“And at that point, not looking out the window, I heard the yell for help, one yell for help, and then I heard another, as I described this, excruciating type of yell. It didn’t even almost sound like a “Help.” It just sounded so painful. But I wasn’t watching out the window during that. And the next time I looked out the window there, the same thing: two men on the grass, one on top of each other. I kind of thought like they—I couldn’t see a lot of movement, because it was very dark, but I felt like they were scuffling. And then I heard the gunshot, which, to me, were more like pops than they were like a bang.”
Where in that statement do you get that Martin was the one screaming? What I see is “..wasn’t watching during that..” “..two men on top of each other...” “...very dark..” “gunshot...more like pops...” (I’ll give the witness a gimme on that, probably meant “like a pop”.
Mary Cutcher and her roommate saw Zimmerman straddling the body, basically a foot on both sides of Trayvon’s body, and his hands pressed on his back.
Sounds like he was getting up from the ground, doesn’t it? Hands pressed against Trayvon’s back (because he was face down) for leverage as he was rising to his feet. The two women were there within a few seconds. Did you notice that there was no mention of Zimmerman squirming to get out from under Trayvon’s body or pushing Trayvon’s body off him?
Are you insinuating the guy is lying in his interview?
Has the ME determined if the ‘chest wound’ was the entry wound or the exit wound yet?
I think you are a little confused. Rather had no experts, he had a story that some people believed because it fitted their preconceptions.
Back then it was the Freepers who looked at and analysed the evidence. Today they mostly are acting like people with BDS did then.
Should I post the autospy report?
“Mary Cutcher and her roommate saw Zimmerman straddling the body, basically a foot on both sides of Trayvon’s body, and his hands pressed on his back.”
In an earlier post you flat out stated that these witnesses were saying that Zimmerman was standing over Martin BEFORE he was shot (Zimmerman was on top and shot Martin in the back). That is false. What they say they saw occurred AFTER the gunshot. Odd that these witnesses had 30 days to concoct stories, and they still couldn’t come up with anything relevant.
“Has the ME determined if the ‘chest wound’ was the entry wound or the exit wound yet?”
Are you mentally challenged? How can there be entry and exit wounds when only one wound was reported?
That simply has to be a lie. If he was even charged with that he would have to have been found not guilty to even purchase a gun much less pass muster for a concealed permit.
She claimed he was stalking her, he said she was making it up because he refused to have sex with her. "He said, she said. You two stay away from each other, right."
Maybe the former altar boy really didn't want the sex. But it fist the pattern of his other brushes with the law. Something happens. Zimmerman confronts/follows/chases - when the cops get involved he says "It was the other guy who started it"
I’m sorry, wouldn’t it be fairly easy for LE to determine if someone was shot in the back while lying face down on the ground?
I never said Zimmerman was standing over Martin. I believe they were both on the ground in close physical contact. Probably rolling around a bit, which would explain why some witnesses saw Zimmerman on the botton and some saw Martin on the bottom.
Have you ever read an autopsy report? The bullet goes in (entry wound), the bullet goes out (exit wound). If there was only one wound then the bullet is still rattling around inside the corspe.
I got the back of my head smacked a few times with a baseball bat one night. When the police arrived, I realized my scalp was bleeding. Since I was ambulatory, I went to the ER on my own—walking steadily, have you. By the time the nurse checked me out, (about an hour after the altercation) the bleeding had essentially stopped on its own & I had dried dark red blood falling off my brown hair. A little brushing with my hand & a lot of it came off.
A half hour or so after she finished, the doctor came in, unsuccessfully tried to tie some hair together (I’d requested no stitches) & sent my on my way with but a bandage that would not adhere. Why? The laceration had closed on its own. Some scalp wounds bleed like everything & have to be medically treated. Some close up & nothing is required except cleaning & observing for infection.
“Should I post the autospy report?”
Yes.
I thought the autopsy report was sealed pending completion of investigation?
Whatever floats your boat, but your posts have no credibility with me.
The medical examiner, not law enforcement, is trained and will determine where the bullet entered and exited.
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