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To: pops88

“he sees a person or animal. I would have to tazer him senseless”

The collar creates a buring, searing pain which the dog can’t stand. He will not be able to focus on the attack, while that pain is wracking him. That break in his focus, as he reflexively looks at his neck, and jumps away from the pain, is all you need to get his attention on you and seize control.

Those collars which cut off the air supply don’t produce the same effect, trust me. The sudden *shock* is not there.

“How do you discipline a thought crime?”

I haven’t seen your dog personally, but I suspect the problem is he didn’t have the *shock* which the collar gives, every time he thought about attacking in the beginning. That sudden shock is what triggers the amygdala, produces aversive stimuli, and conditions him to look to you, and follow your command.

Like I said, I have seen two dogs who couldn’t be stopped from fighting become so conditioned to not growl or threaten, that they actually liked each other. I know for a fact that dominant dog collar wouldn’t have produced that effect, as it would have been just like a prong, without the surprise or pain.

Try new things. You can’t knock them until they fail you personally.

Good luck.


120 posted on 03/31/2012 3:42:44 PM PDT by AnonymousConservative (Why did Liberals evolve within our species? www.anonymousconservative.com)
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To: AnonymousConservative

Thank you for the information, but I did also look at shock collars and did research. From my research, from experts, it was said a dog like mine needed a dominant dog collar and not a shock collar. His drive and focus are too strong and pain would not, will not deter him. I agreed with that assessment after working with my dog extensively.


121 posted on 03/31/2012 3:51:52 PM PDT by pops88 (Standing with Breitbart for truth.)
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Pops88
I can only pray that whoever takes this dog never uses a shock collar on him. To anyone who would suggest such a barbaric training method, I'd say they should try it on their own neck. All it teaches a dog is to expect pain when he's faced with something that scares him.

AnonymousConservative,
As for choking the air out of your dog while "the pain is wracking him", do you have any idea how brutal you come across? Have you never heard of positive reinforcement training or do you just prefer brutal methods?

I'm not going to check back to see any comments proclaiming the virtues of shocking and/or choking the air out of a dog so don't expect any replies should you decide to flame me in order to justify your cruel training methods. I pick my battles and you're not one of them but people need to know you're anything but an expert on training dogs. Salesman, maybe. Expert, no way.
122 posted on 03/31/2012 4:01:43 PM PDT by Shannon
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