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Can We Learn Something from the Classics about Vetting Obama?
American Thinker ^ | March 29, 2012 | Monte Kuligowski

Posted on 03/29/2012 10:47:31 PM PDT by Kukai

After my last piece on why it's reasonable to authenticate Obama's elusive birth certificate, I received an e-mail from a reader. His name is Bill Meisler, and he is fluent in ancient Greek. Recently, Bill was reading the speeches of Demosthenes.

Bill relayed the following:

In the scholarly notes to the Speech Against Meidias the commentator wrote that before an Athenian could hold any magistracy of the city, he had to undergo what was called a dokimasia, a formal public inquiry into whether the man who wished to hold the magistracy possessed all the necessary criteria needed to prove his Athenian citizenship and thereby be allowed the privilege of holding office. The dokimasia was open to the public and was presided over by the appropriate authorities in the presence of the boule, the democratic council representing the entire citizenry. Witnesses and unequivocal documentation were required, and any citizen could challenge the proceedings of the inquiry.

Though it may seem a little odd to us at first glance, the dokimasia was held after the election. In the book Aspects of Athenian Democracy, by Robert J. Bonner, it's noted that:

... [t]hese disqualifications and restrictions [to holding office] were matters of record or observation[.] But there were other disqualifications that could be discovered only by a judicial investigation involving the production of witnesses. Obviously it would be economical of time and effort to defer this inquiry until after the election[.] This examination was known as the dokimasia.

In contemporary America, the examination of candidates is thought to be done by the free press prior to the election. But when serious vetting of the winning candidate has not occurred, we have a predicament: judges have ruled that citizens have no standing to enforce eligibility requirements becauseof the election.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; birther; naturalborncitizen; vettingobama

1 posted on 03/29/2012 10:47:33 PM PDT by Kukai
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To: Danae; LucyT; null and void; Brown Deer

Ping.


2 posted on 03/29/2012 10:51:57 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: Kukai

The flip side of post-election vetting we are witnessing now in Wisconsin - the vendettas of the “losers”, who do not trust the winner to represent ALL the people. It’s actually an extension of re-doing the election until the desired outcome is obtained.


3 posted on 03/29/2012 10:59:42 PM PDT by C210N (Mitt "Severe Etch-a-Sketch" Romney is the front-runner? Seriously??)
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To: thecodont; Berlin_Freeper; Hotlanta Mike; Silentgypsy; repubmom; HANG THE EXPENSE; Nepeta; ...

Birther /börthör/ n1. A person who exhibits the audacity to read the U.S. Constitution, and then demands that his/her government actually obeys it.  2. A derogatory term developed and used by Leftists and Neo-Cons in a lame attempt to marginalize those who harbor the silly notions that Truth matters, and that Republics perish who refuse to uphold the Rule of Law.

4 posted on 03/30/2012 12:43:50 AM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Brown Deer; Berlin_Freeper; Hotlanta Mike; Silentgypsy; repubmom; HANG THE EXPENSE; Nepeta
Birther /börthör/ n. 1. A person who exhibits the audacity to read the U.S. Constitution, and then demands that his/her government actually obeys it. 2. A derogatory term developed and used by Leftists and Neo-Cons in a lame attempt to marginalize those who harbor the silly notions that Truth matters, and that Republics perish who refuse to uphold the Rule of Law.

From the article:

Well, at this point, the solution is to have an American dokimasia to settle the matter once and for all. Robert Bonner informs us that during the examination in ancient Athens, the elected official "was required to prove, by witnesses, his citizen descent for three generations, his performance of his duties to his parents and of all military services, the payment of his taxes, the possession of a family tomb, and adherence to the cults of Apollo Patrous and Zeus of the Household."

These are all excellent and reasonable things to ask.

"Citizen descent for three generations" is not too much to ask.

5 posted on 03/30/2012 1:18:26 AM PDT by thecodont
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To: Kukai

Look no further than Roman history and you will see many parallels with what is currently going on with this country, its politics, military, and politicians.


6 posted on 03/30/2012 4:03:18 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: thecodont

Citizen descent for three generations” is not too much to ask.??? With obumo, all you can ask for is a digital image of alleged birth cert statng a foreign ‘father’,
or
take his words that he is a ‘citizen of the world’ therefore he has no roots, no ancestors....he is the beginning and the end. Generations?


7 posted on 03/30/2012 8:34:41 AM PDT by chrisnj
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To: thecodont
"Citizen descent for three generations" is not too much to ask.

....and that isn't even needed to be asked of 0b0z0! Being first generation of a degenerate Kenyan/British father and unknown mother is good enough to throw him out the 5700 states!

I still say that the American dokimasia has to include education records. The records will prove that 0b0z0 wasn't even qualified to go to school, maybe a school for the challenged and certainly NOT college. We need to hire a corpse_man to dig them out if they ever existed!

It'll also prove his "foreign" status and thievery of taxpayers' funds.

As you know, I'm not a "birther," I'm an education_er, to invent another word.

8 posted on 03/30/2012 8:45:42 AM PDT by melancholy (Professor Alinsky, Enslavement Specialist, Ph.D in L0w and H0lder)
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To: melancholy

” As you know, I’m not a “birther,” I’m an education_er”

I am a CROOK SNIFFER.....I found him too...his name is Obama.


9 posted on 03/30/2012 9:42:31 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
I am a CROOK SNIFFER.....I found him too...his name is Obama.

LOL! That makes him a cr00k0b0z0, an animal that lives in the OutHouse and would devour anyone who bothers him.

10 posted on 03/30/2012 10:29:36 AM PDT by melancholy (Professor Alinsky, Enslavement Specialist, Ph.D in L0w and H0lder)
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To: melancholy

Sheriff Joe Arpaio is a great CROOK SNIFFER too!


11 posted on 03/30/2012 10:31:22 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

You mean cr00k hunter...The crook attacked him and sued his state!

Arpaio didn’t need any sniffing. 0cr00k went after him already.

Arpaio and his posse are very good in sniffing all kinds of illegal crooks. Oh wait, that is redundant. 0b0z0 is the highest-ranking illegal alien cr00k of all time!


12 posted on 03/30/2012 10:51:44 AM PDT by melancholy (Professor Alinsky, Enslavement Specialist, Ph.D in L0w and H0lder)
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