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its a twofer if they can get some mud/doubt slung onto SCOTUS...makes future appointments more likely to get rubber stamped when the time comes..

You got that right!

like i said yesterday, this lawsuit, win, lose, or draw means nothing in the larger picture, because the next EOs, ammendments and lawsuits are already written and ready to launch...all the while the mechanisms are being cemented into place...

I know what you mean, but if WE surrender, that only helps the left. They are counting on a backlash against the SCOTUS (assuming Kennedy doesn't turn left again). Somebody needs to remind the people of the sleazy process that produced obamacare, and that it was really an all-Dem effort.

We complain when the GOP does nothing, and this is least shows a little spirit. The problem is that they have been so timid/silent for so long, that one single ad is not sufficient.

but if WE surrender, that only helps the left

I dont think that *WE* are going to accomplish anything until the inevitable pushback line is crossed...whenever that comes...

the 'we have to pass it to find out whats in it' thing, and the whole consideration of simply 'deeming' it passed w/o a vote shouldve been enuff to stampede the sheep...but alas, the full on graze mentality is entrenched, and i believe will continue to be so...right up to the point where they start taking houses and cars and such for tax/penalty in the name of obedience...

if they get single payer outta this deal in the SCOTUS, itll effectivelytake even that line off the table, as the cash wont be as blatently stolen at the end of a rifle once the individual mandate is a mute point...

collectivism, here we are...

RE :”I know what you mean, but if WE surrender, that only helps the left. They are counting on a backlash against the SCOTUS (assuming Kennedy doesn't turn left again). Somebody needs to remind the people of the sleazy process that produced obamacare, and that it was really an all-Dem effort.”

Right now Obama-care is still so unpopular that I dont think that's an immediate problem. If it gets thrown out Dems will claim that every-single problem with Health care is the conservative court's fault much like we blame Obama-care now.

If Republicans fought like Dems do and wanted to win they would remind the liberal base that it was Obama that took single payer off the table in 2009 and that single payer would not have been thrown out of court, ref medicaid and medicare. Remind them that Obama pushed the unpopular personal manadate to buy insurance from privately owned companies.
The object is to demoralize them like they successfully do to us. That option was even less popular than the one they ended up with.

Gilbo is right, when Romney get’s the nomination that will be a surrender. He will be a disaster. This morning I heard that Newt is having private talks with Romney.