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To: DiogenesLamp
“I ask you, who else has access to all the right sources of data needed to create such a document? The Hawaiian DOH creates replacement birth certificates for any child that gets adopted in Hawaii routinely.”

IMO, HI DOH would never forge pdf images of LFBCs.

All that was needed to forge Barry's BC was several 1961 LFBC, which were available on the web. There is considerable evidence, according to some affidavits, that some typed characters were lifted from those known LFBC images.

Arpaio has probable cause to show that there never was a paper LFBC as a source of Barry's LFBC, and Arpaio’s computer forensics experts claim that the pdf was on a MAC in the WH 15 minutes prior to the press conference. At a minimum, the WH would appear to be implicated in the chain of possession of the forged pdf image for which there was no prior paper document. This pretty well excludes any “routine” creation of an adoption paper for Barry...especially now that no new paper LFBCs have been created for a decade now.

65 posted on 03/29/2012 12:58:15 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: Seizethecarp
IMO, HI DOH would never forge pdf images of LFBCs.

I don't think that's what DL is saying. They probably created two copies of a certified birth certificate as was requested, based on the most recently authorized information and gave them to Obama's courier girl. There's a question as to why Obama would request TWO copies when he has used NEITHER of the two copies for any legal purpose. My suspicion is that one or both were deconstructed and modified perhaps physically and digitally, so as to fabricate the PDF which was further modified to contain information that no longer matches whatever was obtained from the HI DOH. Somewhere along the line they had to have a paper document to scan the security background and some of the text/signatures.

66 posted on 03/29/2012 2:33:49 PM PDT by edge919
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To: Seizethecarp
Arpaio has probable cause to show that there never was a paper LFBC as a source of Barry's LFBC, and Arpaio’s computer forensics experts claim that the pdf was on a MAC in the WH 15 minutes prior to the press conference. At a minimum, the WH would appear to be implicated in the chain of possession of the forged pdf image for which there was no prior paper document. This pretty well excludes any “routine” creation of an adoption paper for Barry...especially now that no new paper LFBCs have been created for a decade now.

It would be my guess as well that there is no "original" long form birth certificate for Barack Obama. I think one of the directors referred to it as a "birth record" and alluded to it as "half written, half typed." If this is an accurate description, it certainly resembles my conception of what an "at home birth" affidavit might look like.

I have long suspected that Barry cannot even prove he meets 14th amendment citizenship requirements, let alone "natural born citizen" requirements.

69 posted on 03/29/2012 3:24:31 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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