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To: Kate_Malloy

I have a question for you. But first I was in the camp that was not interested because I seriously could not see how one could know with certainty what Obama’s true status was.

But I did have suspicions because I saw Obama and his people try to stonewall repeatedly over the years and spend a great deal of money keeping a $10 paper from being released to the courts or the press. Obama also let a military colonel go to prison rather than release his long form BC. Of course I could see smoke and sense there was a fire somewhere in this.

I saw the press use their standard tactic to label anyone with a suspicion or curiosity as a ‘Birther’.

But I kept out of it for the most part until I saw the deconstruction of the released long form BC. I saw the layers and the time stamps used under the software known as Adobe Illustrator. It was clear then the document was forged. It was not surprising to see the press reaction to those saying the document was a forgery. It was the same tactic used on Global Warming ‘Deniers’.

Sheriff Arpaio alluded to a tantalizing finding, the possibility that the forger could be or was identified. It is possible I suppose that a registration number of the software was somehow embedded in the hex code of the image and that a trace could be made to identify who registered the software.

So here’s the question for you:

Assume the image of the long form BC is a forgery. The forger could have printed out the altered document and then rescanned the printed document to get rid of the software evidence of forgery. It would have been the easiest thing to do.

But the forger didn’t rescan the document.

So either the forger was reckless, not bright, or rushed.

Or the forger was a patriot and wanted the document to be found as a forgery.

Which do you think it was? If it was the second case, should we reward the forger for the service they did the country?

Things to think about.


28 posted on 03/28/2012 9:28:01 PM PDT by Hostage (Be Breitbart!)
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To: Hostage
I'm not knowledgeable enough to get into the forged BC, Hostage. From the onset it was my belief that Obama was not eligible because he is not Natural Born.

In my own case, though my Dad and his family had come to America in 1910, he did not become a citizen until 1936, the year after I was born....and so I, according to our Constitution, am not Naturalized. And so my own situation determined my stance against Obama.

I do believe the BC Obama presented is a forgery, but it is only an added deception when the bottom line is that we know his father wasn't an American citizen, so Obama is not Natural Born!

33 posted on 03/28/2012 11:17:34 PM PDT by Kate_Malloy
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To: Hostage
Assume the image of the long form BC is a forgery. The forger could have printed out the altered document and then rescanned the printed document to get rid of the software evidence of forgery. It would have been the easiest thing to do.

But the forger didn’t rescan the document.

So either the forger was reckless, not bright, or rushed.

Or the forger was a patriot and wanted the document to be found as a forgery.

Which do you think it was? If it was the second case, should we reward the forger for the service they did the country?

Things to think about.

I will once again offer my possible solution to this conundrum. The "forger" was an employee of the Department of Health in Hawaii.

Obama was adopted by Lolo Soetoro in 1965 and his original birth certificate was sealed. He was later adopted again by his Grandparents when he was 10 years old in 1971 (With whom he lived for the next 8 years) which resulted in the Previous Soetoro birth certificate being sealed.

What we are seeing now, is a document which was produced by the Department of Health in Hawaii as a REPLACEMENT birth certificate for an adopted child. Obama's lawyers went to court and had his adoptions annulled or amended, and the court ordered the DOH to produce him a new one.

The failure to flatten the layers or just make a scan of a print-out were the result of the DOH employee not knowing that a PDF contained all that extra information. (Neither did his lawyer, or he would have prevented it from being released. )

To sum it up, the document *IS* a forgery, but it is a "LEGAL" forgery created by the State of Hawaii. No other explanation makes any sense.

38 posted on 03/29/2012 6:32:48 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: Hostage; DiogenesLamp
Assume the image of the long form BC is a forgery. The forger could have printed out the altered document and then rescanned the printed document to get rid of the software evidence of forgery. It would have been the easiest thing to do.

The forger is in Hawaii, no document was printed out. The file was emailed to someone close to Obama and posted on the WH website. I believe one copy was printed out for a chosen few to "look" at. The forger probably didn't think about the layers as he/she was probably under the assumption that the PDF would be printed to show the public the two copies and had no idea that the actual file would be available for downloading. If anyone thinks that someone flew to HI to pick up the "two" certified copies then I have a bridge for sale.

44 posted on 03/29/2012 8:24:36 AM PDT by GregNH (>>>>>I am SO ready to join a brigade of pickup trucks to surround DC<<<<<)
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