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To: jakerobins

I don’t understand what anyone gains by trying to make the poor kid look like a criminal. If he had a screwdriver or an empty weed bag at one time, or even with him, it doesn’t matter. He wasn’t doing anything criminal Zimmerman chased him down. He wasn’t fleeing a liquor store robbery. He wasn’t climbing out of someone’s window. He wasn’t stabbing puppies.

This isn’t a political issue. It isn’t a left-right issue. A paranoid, overzealous neighborhood watch guy who saw criminality everywhere (see his 40 plus 9-11 calls since January 2011 for evidence) chased down a teenager walking back from the store, some sort of confrontation occured (what would you do if you were chased down by a gun toting stranger?) and the kid was killed. This confrontation did not need to happen, and it was Zimmerman who instigated it. He should be held accountable, at least for manslaughter. (by accountable, I mean tried in a court of law)

When a kid dies needlessly because of you, you should have to answer for it.


24 posted on 03/27/2012 8:03:31 AM PDT by ChurtleDawg (voting only encourages them)
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To: ChurtleDawg

At the heart of this maelstrom — in which the thorny issues of race and justice have surfaced as themes — is a boy who dreamed of becoming a pilot and liked to work with his hands.

After taking an airplane ride two years ago, Trayvon decided he wanted to learn to fly, his uncle Ronald Fulton said. The teen attended a Miami aviation school part time and was studying to be an engineer, a path to realizing his ambition, Fulton said.

Math was Trayvon’s favorite subject.

He liked to tinker, and he was good with his hands. He once took apart and repaired a broken scooter, Fulton said, and he liked to construct model cars and airplanes and draw pictures of things he wanted to build.

“He was extremely creative,” said Michelle Kypriss, Trayvon’s English teacher at Dr. Michael M. Krop Senior High School in Miami. “He just loved building things. He really was intrigued by how things worked.”

She described Trayvon, a junior, as an A and B student who majored in cheerfulness.

His uncle said Trayvon was still a typical kid who loved sports, music and was just feeling the first flush of youth. “He was trying to start driving. He was just finding out about girls.”

Trayvon was close to his 21-year-old brother Jahvaris, also of Miami, and assisted his uncle, a quadriplegic, on outings to University of Miami basketball games.

“He used to help me,” Fulton said, voice breaking.

Trayvon — who was known as “Tray” or “Slimm” — played youth football during his early teens and helped his father coach Little League baseball, said Fulton, whose sister, Sybrina Fulton, is Trayvon’s mother.

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-03-17/news/os-trayvon-martin-shooting-tension-20120317_1_shooting-death-english-teacher-uncle?pagewanted=all


27 posted on 03/27/2012 8:06:54 AM PDT by anglian
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To: ChurtleDawg

There’s no evidence Zimmerman “chased the kid down.” When the dispatcher asked Zimmerman if he was following the man Zimmerman said yes but he wasn’t running, you can tell that from his speech, nt to mention running’s difficult while talking on a cell phone in the dark. The dispatcher told him he didn’t need to do that and Zimmerman said “OK.”

Whether he continued to follow after that is not known but it sounds like he cut it off after saying “OK,” since the connection gets clearer. We just don’t know. We do know that Zimmerman’s FIRST response to sighting this person in his neighborhood was not to shoot the guy or confront the guy but was to call the police. That’s not the act of a criminal.

Zimmerman did say during that call that he saw Trayvan run. Apparently Trayvan saw Zimmerman on the phone looking his way and decided to run, which is an odd behavior for someone just out on a walk minding his own business. If Treyvan was nervous at being sighted and unsure of Zimmerman’s intentions why not simply walk on the other side of the street, turn around and take a different route, or call out “hello” like a normal person out on a walk would do to see if the response is friendly? Instead, Treyvan decides to run?

A short fat guy is not going to succeed in “chasing down” a young athlete, and if he wanted to shoot the guy Zimmerman certainly would not have to chase him to do it and would not have to get anywhere near the guy to do it. Zimmerman sure as heck isn’t going to be able to catch someone who has a head start and is as fit as Treyvan. Are you trying to tell us that the fat guy was able to outrun Treyvan?


51 posted on 03/27/2012 9:08:23 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: ChurtleDawg

That dead punk was up to no good, and wondering around a gated community he didn’t belong in. We are showing the character of this dead punk, and if you don’t like the truth, than join the marches, but do us all a favor and find another more suited site for your ignorance. We do not care what liberals and anti-christians, hate mongers feel or think. People like you are disturbing.


61 posted on 03/27/2012 11:02:13 AM PDT by Joshua Marcus
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To: ChurtleDawg

That dead punk was up to no good, and wondering around a gated community he didn’t belong in. We are showing the character of this dead punk, and if you don’t like the truth, than join the marches, but do us all a favor and find another more suited site for your ignorance. We do not care what liberals and anti-christians, hate mongers feel or think. People like you are disturbing.


62 posted on 03/27/2012 11:05:06 AM PDT by Joshua Marcus
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To: ChurtleDawg
This isn’t a political issue. It isn’t a left-right issue. A paranoid, overzealous neighborhood watch guy who saw criminality everywhere (see his 40 plus 9-11 calls since January 2011 for evidence)

Since 2004. You can get a transcript of every single call at this website. There's also a record of half a dozen burglaries and a home invasion in the complex within the last month. Sanford is 30% black. If it's anything like NYC, which is 25% black, 80% of the crime is committed by young black men.

66 posted on 03/27/2012 1:41:20 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: ChurtleDawg

I misspoke - NYC’s crime numbers are around 60% black and about 25% Hispanic. The latest NYPD numbers are here:
http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/downloads/pdf/analysis_and_planning/yearend2011enforcementreport.pdf


67 posted on 03/27/2012 1:52:06 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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