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Invading America? Not Likely.
thenetgunsmith.com ^ | 2/11/2012 | Benjamin Worthen

Posted on 03/25/2012 9:58:57 AM PDT by mojitojoe

A Gun Behind Every Blade of Grass…

Japanese Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto expressed an appropriate comment in the 1940’s (though many believe the forthcoming statement was actually propaganda originated in the U.S. and stated by American press outlets, and not the Admiral).

“You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.”

Whether or not Yamamoto ever actually said those words, doesn’t diminish the facts as they stand. As appropriate as that statement was in the 40’s it is perhaps much more appropriate now as the U.S. appetite for guns has evolved into something worthy of a talking to from the Catholic priest, worried about a nation’s gluttonous behavior.

About 8-9 million guns are produced each year worldwide by best estimates; some 4.6 million (last reasonable estimate was made in 2006 Q4) of those end up in the hands of Americans, approximately 50% of total global production. Estimates of 100 million guns in private hands are accurate on the low end, with some sources stating total gun volumes are nearing 350 million in private hands and somewhere near 475million with active Military arms included.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; Miscellaneous
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To: cripplecreek

That’s an interesting graphic and I don’t doubt it as an indicator of general trends but I wonder at its accuracy regarding my state (Washington). Illegals are like a plague here. There is literally no place one can go and not encounter them.

And that’s just western Washington - the east side is even more pronounced. Now, a leftist would read this and (after calling me racist) scold me that not all hispanics are illegals. Yep, I acknowledge that, but characteristics such as non-English speaking (or comprehending), along with anti-American attitudes tend to give them away.

Furthermore, as a “sanctuary state” we deliberately don’t keep stats on who is and isn’t here legally. I don’t think that we’re as overrun as the border states, but we’re definitely in the “pink”.


21 posted on 03/25/2012 11:09:20 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: rockrr
That’s an interesting graphic and I don’t doubt it as an indicator of general trends but I wonder at its accuracy regarding my state (Washington). Illegals are like a plague here. There is literally no place one can go and not encounter them.

True enough. Hardly a week passes when I don't read about an illegal being arrested for something or other in my local Michigan paper.
22 posted on 03/25/2012 11:12:24 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek
but the fact that we have 10s of millions of illegal aliens here tells a different story.

I don't mind the aliens as much as the Democrat Traitors that occupy the White House, Senate and the Federal Court System. They are openly hostile to the principles of the Declaration of Independence.

23 posted on 03/25/2012 11:39:08 AM PDT by ALPAPilot
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To: I Shall Endure
A biological or chemical attack makes the most sense.

Or, an EMP attack. One over Louisville, KY, one over Salt Lake City, UT. Wait maybe a year. The US is all yours. Granted, the electrical infrastructure will need to be repaired.

24 posted on 03/25/2012 11:45:33 AM PDT by upchuck (Where others hold a window into the world, nobama holds a mirror. h/t - Don Surber)
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To: RightOnline
It has everything to do with what has kept us safe for centuries: broad oceans off of either coast and the fact that we’re a HUGE country.

I think most people who have fantasized about a Soviet or Chinese invasion tend to forget that, or they think the D-Day landings were a simple affair. Germany with all of it's military capacity in WWII never could muster the resources to present a serious invasion threat to Great Britain.

Trying to stage an aerial or naval invasion across an ocean is just not humanely possible against the US. Even the invasions of Sicily/Italy were extremely difficult, and we had control of the Mediterranean at that point. Even trying to stage an invasion out of Cuba or anywhere else in that area. would have been impossible for the Soviets, because the logistics lines back to the Soviet Union had many choke points along the way, not to mention the gap between Cuba and the US.

Logistics still count, folks. We have far, far worse threats to our sovereignty and freedoms than a military invasion....and far more real.

Don't forget economics. China has no interest in going to war with us when they know full well they can do more harm to our economy than they could ever do militarily. That should worry people far more than any military threat.
25 posted on 03/25/2012 11:47:59 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: cripplecreek

Any pics ?


26 posted on 03/25/2012 11:52:34 AM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom)
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To: Bryanw92
but it is relatively bloodless...

Not in my vicinity.


27 posted on 03/25/2012 11:55:44 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (I will not comply. I will NEVER submit.)
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To: mojitojoe
The fact is that we have been experiencing an invasion by hostile forces for several decades - Mexicans from the South border, and Muslims from the East (Mideast, that is). They have encampments in place all over the US.
28 posted on 03/25/2012 12:10:19 PM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-Qaeda" and its allies.)
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To: elpadre

We are imploding from within - no need to invade.


29 posted on 03/25/2012 12:12:14 PM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: rockrr

NJ is filled with illegals; if they weren’t here whole areas would be de-populated. The government workers that would end up out of work are fighting to allow them to stay, and hoping more come; they get paid either way (even when the “clients” don’t pay taxes).

Companies and taxpayers that work for them are fleeing the state in response.


30 posted on 03/25/2012 12:20:19 PM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: cripplecreek

That and a growing violent inner city underclass, along with illegal aliens, may present a major hostile force to be dealt with.


31 posted on 03/25/2012 12:26:00 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: mojitojoe

I can only shake my head at this...

Not likely? Tell that to the Mexicans who are invading and colonizing by the millions...


32 posted on 03/25/2012 12:28:20 PM PDT by LastNorwegian
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To: mojitojoe
There is a problem with all the theories though: they all forget to factor in that the United States is the most well trained and well supplied military, with more bases and military installations in the United States than are even necessary. The U.S. Armed Forces have Air superiority, Sea superiority, Intelligence superiority and vast allies throughout the world, not to mention, the best kept borders and the ability to pretty much manufacture or supply everything from thousands of different locations around the globe through its allied relationships and wide footprint of companies and military facilities.

That's good news. Better news is that the vast majority of small arms and ammo in the USA is widely distributed across the country, and most are in the possession of relatively conservative owners.

Some bad news is that about 59 million people voted for a known communist, muslim, anti-American, non-American usurper for president in 2008, and these same turnip-level IQ commies infest just about every organization in the country, including the 20% of Republican voters who are now so avidly supporting the crony communist RINO Romney to replace the current occupant.

The threat of outside invaders is not so great as that from the internal enemies of the USA.

33 posted on 03/25/2012 12:42:52 PM PDT by meadsjn (Sarah 2012, or sooner)
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To: LastNorwegian

Exactly. The American Indian knows that an invasion from Europe was very successful in the past.


34 posted on 03/25/2012 12:44:32 PM PDT by expat2
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To: mojitojoe


“.....you will not be able to rationalize such an attack.”

But that’s the problem, isn’t it?

The attack on Pearl Harbor was not rational.

September 11 was not rational.

I think we also underestimate the risk of drone aircraft.

It would not be a technical challenge to build a WW2 style atomic bomb, sail it on a commercial vessel 250 miles off the USA coast, hook it to the bottom of drone, launch into the wind with a basic catapult device, and detonate it over New York City at 3 AM.


35 posted on 03/25/2012 5:46:25 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: cripplecreek
Military invasion no, but the fact that we have 10s of millions of illegal aliens here tells a different story. Back in 2007, there were allegedly 12 Million illegals here. Lord knows how many there are today. And remember, when Hitler launched Operation Barbarossa against the Soviet Union in 1941, only 3 Million troops were involved.
36 posted on 03/25/2012 5:57:00 PM PDT by benldguy (<i>Obama delenda est!</i>)
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To: mojitojoe

They will not need to “invade.”. They will show up in grey suits, with the sherif and an eviction notice.


37 posted on 03/27/2012 5:27:02 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (I just don't like anything about the President. And I don't think he's a nice guy.)
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To: zeestephen

From the Japanese perspective the attack on Pearl was absolutely rational. If they could take out our fleet they would be free to get the oil and rubber they needed.

And remember, it was a surprise to us, not the Imperial Navy.


38 posted on 03/27/2012 5:30:21 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (I just don't like anything about the President. And I don't think he's a nice guy.)
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To: Vermont Lt
As a tactical effort, yes, the assault on Pearl Harbor made sense.

Strategically, however, Japan gambled everything on their perception of FDR as a weak and easily frightened leader (a fair judgment, in my opinion) , and, less so, on their perception of Americans as disorganized, spoiled, and lazy.

The idea was to give America a shocking defeat, then negotiate a settlement, or, bleed America into a negotiated stalemate, which is what happened in Korea and Vietnam in later years.

But they gambled their lives and the destruction of their country on pure speculation about the future.

That was not rational.

The same could be said about the Battle of the Bulge.

Germany's assault was a complete tactical shock.....because it made absolutely no sense.

Hitler's goal was to split the American and British forces, then negotiate a settlement, or, ultimately convince the Allies to join Germany's fight against the Soviet Union.

That was completely irrational.

On the other hand, I'm someone who has always maintained that Hitler's assault on the Soviet Union in 1941 was, in fact, completely rational from a military point of view.

Hitler believed, quite reasonably, that the Ukraine and White Russia would greet the Germans as liberators from the Stalinist tyranny.

But then Hitler did something completely irrational.

He almost immediately began to slaughter Jews, slaughter the bureaucrats, evict farmers and home owners for German resettlement, and starve to death captured Soviet soldiers.

People made the obvious choice.....

Fight for the Demon you know - Stalin - or fight for the Demon you don't know - Hitler.

39 posted on 03/27/2012 2:21:05 PM PDT by zeestephen
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