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Witness: Martin attacked Zimmerman
Fox Miami ^ | Friday, 23 Mar 2012 | Staff

Posted on 03/23/2012 8:56:45 PM PDT by Kazan

Edited on 03/23/2012 8:59:52 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

ORLANDO - A witness we haven't heard from before paints a much different picture than we've seen so far of what happened the night 17-year-old Trayvon Martin was shot and killed.

The night of that shooting, police say there was a witness who saw it all.


(Excerpt) Read more at myfoxtampabay.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: blackkk; florida; georgezimmerman; obama; trayvon; trayvonmartin; trayvonshooting; trayvonwitness; zimmerman
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To: max americana

I haven’t been following this controversy closely, but from the picture I saw, he really does look like what I would imagine an Obama son to look like.


381 posted on 03/24/2012 11:26:54 AM PDT by WPaCon
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To: Kazan

There is one strange wrinkle that might open some liability for the police department.

The 911 operater asked if Zimmerman was following Martin. Zimmerman responded that he was. Then the operator saids: “We don’t need you to do that.”

What the operator did not say was: “Don’t do that!”


382 posted on 03/24/2012 11:27:14 AM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Something just doesn’t add up.

How does this skinny little black kid get the best of the macho Latino who appears to outweigh him 2 to 1?

{shrug}

Whitey’s fault./s


383 posted on 03/24/2012 11:28:19 AM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: Mean Maryjean

See post 328. I think someone determined that those photos that were removed were another Travon Martin.


384 posted on 03/24/2012 11:33:19 AM PDT by chuckee
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To: 101stAirborneVet
I see this media instigated lynch mob ending in violence unless Zimmerman arrested and convicted. How many members of Al's mob are members of the free Mumia movement? When they say justice they really mean JustuS.
385 posted on 03/24/2012 12:03:59 PM PDT by peeps36 (America is being destroyed by filthy traitors in the political establishment)
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To: wtc911

Since neither of us was there we are both guessing like the rest of the country.


386 posted on 03/24/2012 12:58:24 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Kazan
I've kept my mouth shut on this one until more information has come out. The witness sharply contrasts what the MSM has been reporting. But it really hasn't changed my mind, since I haven't and probably won't make up my mind about Zimmerman's guilt or lack thereof. It really doesn't concern me. I won't be on the jury if there is even a trail. I'll never have all the details.

What concerns me is there is a problem with blacks in American. When 90% of blacks vote democrat, there is a problem. There is a black crime problem in America too. Go to FBI.gov and look at the statistics. It is not proportional to the number of blacks in America. Are there more crimes committed by whites? Yes. But the percent of whites in America is much higher than blacks. I haven't done the research, but I venture to guess that there are a disproportionate number of blacks that receive government handouts (welfare, food stamps, medicaid, section 8 housing, daycare, etc.) I know, or so I have heard, that there are more whites that receive these benefits. But I am willing to bet the percentage of whites that receive these benefits is much lower than the percentage of blacks.

I have a problem with white trash as well as black trash. At the end of the day, I have a problem with anyone that votes for democrats, belongs to a union, commits a crime, and otherwise wants to confiscate the money that I earn to pay for their trashy lives.

This whole Trayvon Martin thing just clearly shows the character of Barrak Husein Obama, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, et. al. They want your money and they are willing to use the race card to get it. They are BLACK TRASH.

387 posted on 03/24/2012 1:15:35 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA
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To: ConservativeInPA
Are there more crimes committed by whites? Yes.

Blacks commit around 50% of the crimes in the country. Non-Hispanic whites commit around 15%.

388 posted on 03/24/2012 1:31:42 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Krankor
Trayvon was suspended from school for 10 days. The father immediately got him out of town. The father claims he was suspended for being in an “unauthorized area of the school”- but refuses to elaborate. Was Trayvon caught stealing? Was his father trying to get him away from a “bad crowd”. Was Trayvon a good kid going bad? Has anyone checked the timeline of why he was going to the store. Wasn’t it supposedly at half time. Is it possible Trayvon was casing the neighborhood?

My guess is theft and/or drugs. Probably theft related to the need to acquire cash for drugs.

389 posted on 03/24/2012 1:35:00 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: little jeremiah; PhilDragoo
Thanks for that info.
Given the forces of evil involved, color me non-surprised.

Imho, your 'other forum friend' would do a service to the cause of justice were he/she to make said photos available via an anonymous hosting site (eg MediaFire) with original EXIF info intact.

Sanford and/or FL officials may already be in possession of same, but if so would likely be barred by law from divulging same prior to conclusion of the pending grand jury proceeding.

390 posted on 03/24/2012 1:45:53 PM PDT by tomkat (FU.baraq)
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To: Zhang Fei
Blacks commit around 50% of the crimes in the country. Non-Hispanic whites commit around 15%. The stats that I was looking at from the FBI didn't separate Hispanics and Whites. I found that unusual. I was positive the numbers were skewed when I saw them.
391 posted on 03/24/2012 1:51:05 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA
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To: ConservativeInPA
The stats that I was looking at from the FBI didn't separate Hispanics and Whites. I found that unusual. I was positive the numbers were skewed when I saw them.

According to Ron Unz*, on an age-adjusted per capita basis, Hispanics only commit a slightly higher number of crimes than non-Hispanic whites. The median age Hispanic is around 27, whereas the median age non-Hispanic white is over 40. Blacks, however, are off the charts.

* Unz pushed through a referendum initiative to end bilingual education in California. This put an end to the teaching of non-language-related subjects in anything other than English.

392 posted on 03/24/2012 2:04:03 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: tomkat; Brown Deer

I will suggest that to her, thank you. Brown Deer posted some photos as well, don’t know where they came from.


393 posted on 03/24/2012 2:37:41 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell. Signed, a fanatic)
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To: tomkat; Brown Deer

I will suggest that to her, thank you. Brown Deer posted some photos as well, don’t know where they came from.

(Being a techtard, I have no idea what “original EXIF” means but maybe the other person does.)


394 posted on 03/24/2012 2:38:09 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell. Signed, a fanatic)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

They get paid for it. Don’t kid yourself into thinking otherwise.


395 posted on 03/24/2012 2:55:19 PM PDT by GOPJ (Democrat-Media Complex - buried stories and distorted facts... freeper 'andrew' Breitbart)
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To: Phantom Phixer

I don’t believe the facts support your story - even when the races are reversed... This is NOT going to play out the way the race baiters wish it would.

(Oh, by the way Phantom Phixer - I like the way you think on this issue - logical - outside the box - striving for fairness - all good - but I still differ with you)

But that’s only one issue. There are others.

Here’s the other one: the liberal press is ginning up hate and racial anger BECAUSE it’s brings out the vote for democrats. The ‘woman’ card was played with the ‘conservatives will take away your birth control’ and now the race card is being played.

No one in this culture seems to give a damn about young black men dying. The number one cause of death among black men under 25 is homicide. They’re murdered. It’s pandemic. And who commits those murders? Over 90% of the killers of young black men ARE BLACK.

Jackson, Sharpton, Panthers, New York Times, and the guilty white press don’t care about ghetto slaughter. It doesn’t gin up the vote that keeps white liberal elites in office.

Here’s a link to some New York Times journalists talking about helping Occupy - helping Obama, laughing about how NPR and PBS cheat the taxman... etc. I’m sorry we couldn’t hear them talk about race in a REAL way too. You might be surprised how political it is...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBFOmUXR080

I’ve got a crime statistic link for you too... that’s coming next.


396 posted on 03/24/2012 3:18:19 PM PDT by GOPJ (Democrat-Media Complex - buried stories and distorted facts... freeper 'andrew' Breitbart)
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To: little jeremiah; Semper911; SWAMPSNIPER
EXIF (Exchangeable Image File) data is camera/scene info that's encoded within .jpg, .tiff, and .raw images shot with a digital camera.

The link above gives a really good short explanation.

The point being that the exif info can be a good starting point for verifying image authenticity.
Items like 'created date' or 'last modified date' can be helpful in checking if a time frame fits, and some (most?) image hosting sites can also read the URL of the originating post.

Disclaimer: I've read just enough about all this to be dangerous, but there are plenty of FReepers way expert in the subject (swampsniper springs to mind) should you wish to pic their brain about it.

For example, of the two pics posted here of the facebook postings of two individuals purported to be T.Martin, part of the exif info for the first/top pic is below, but the exif info for the second/lower pic has been stripped out of the image (there are apps that can do that), leaving its provenance in much doubt.

Top image:
- - - - - -

EXIF IFD0


397 posted on 03/24/2012 3:19:55 PM PDT by tomkat (FU.baraq !)
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To: CatherineofAragon

Glad you liked it.


398 posted on 03/24/2012 3:20:20 PM PDT by GOPJ (Democrat-Media Complex - buried stories and distorted facts... freeper 'andrew' Breitbart)
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To: Phantom Phixer

An August report by the Justice Department showed that in 2005, blacks represented 13% of the U.S. population but accounted for nearly half of its murder victims. Most of the black murder victims — 93% —were killed by other black people.

http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/05/white_relief


399 posted on 03/24/2012 3:22:28 PM PDT by GOPJ (Democrat-Media Complex - buried stories and distorted facts... freeper 'andrew' Breitbart)
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To: Blue Highway; Jack Hydrazine

They’re really crawling out of the woodwork on these threads; sort of like moths to a flame actually.


400 posted on 03/24/2012 3:31:58 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell. Signed, a fanatic)
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