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Bruce Bartlett: The Ryan Budget Plan: More Fantasy than Reality
The Fiscal Times ^ | 03/23/2012 | Bruce Bartlett

Posted on 03/23/2012 5:22:56 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 03/23/2012 5:23:01 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s a campaign document, not a serious budget. Ryan should not have wasted his time and his credibility on something with zero chance of enactment.


2 posted on 03/23/2012 5:26:14 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: SeekAndFind

Ugh. I hate inside the beltway asshats. Bruce Bartlett is definitely on that list.


3 posted on 03/23/2012 5:26:48 AM PDT by ilgipper (Everything you get from the government was taken from someone else)
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To: babble-on

You have to be joking. Ryan is among only a handful of people actually addressing the problems in Washington. He has tackled reform of 2 of the 3 major entitlements, and has even now gotten some of the Democrats on board with solutions in his proposals. He has almost single-handedly changed the discussion in Washington.

Of course none of his reforms get through Harry Reid and Obama, which exactly why it is important to present now...to clearly identify what they will not pass unless the Senate is Republican and the White House changes parties. In the early 90s our House minority made all kinds of reform proposals knowing they wouldn’t even get a hearing the Democratic House committees.


4 posted on 03/23/2012 5:31:03 AM PDT by ilgipper (Everything you get from the government was taken from someone else)
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To: SeekAndFind

Bruce Bartlett is more fantasy than reality.


5 posted on 03/23/2012 5:48:23 AM PDT by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR" - Glenn Beck)
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To: SeekAndFind
I think his real objection is:

It proposes massive changes not merely in the path of federal spending, but the very nature of government and society.

So I imagine he's upset that Ryan will not uphold his conception of the 'social contract'.

6 posted on 03/23/2012 5:53:53 AM PDT by LucianOfSamasota (Tanstaafl - its not just for breakfast anymore...)
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To: SeekAndFind

More proof that Bartlett, once a leading supply-side light, has dementia.


7 posted on 03/23/2012 5:55:23 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually (Hendrix))
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To: babble-on

Wrong. Any budget that BEGINS with $5 Trillion in cuts is serious, and deserves our attention and support. Idiots like Bartlett-—who simply lost his brain with Bush hatred-—need to be shown the “Democrats only” door.


8 posted on 03/23/2012 5:56:24 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually (Hendrix))
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To: SeekAndFind

Bruce [Bartlett] is the author of seven books including The New York Times bestseller Impostor: How George W. Bush Bankrupted America and Betrayed the Reagan Legacy (Doubleday, 2006). His latest book is The New American Economy: The Failure of Reaganomics and a New Way Forward (Palgrave Macmillan, 2009).

http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Authors/B/Bruce-Bartlett.aspx


9 posted on 03/23/2012 5:57:02 AM PDT by LucianOfSamasota (Tanstaafl - its not just for breakfast anymore...)
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To: ilgipper

I am a huge fan of Ryan’s but this is simply not a serious proposal. All it does is provide ammunition to the opponents of fiscal responsibility. When we have a Republican in the white house and are just a few votes away from 60 senators, that’s the time to get serious.


10 posted on 03/23/2012 6:20:56 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: babble-on

RE: this is simply not a serious proposal.

I’d like to know which part of his proposal you consider un-serious and how do you propose to fix that part.

Is it because he does not cut enough? Is it because he cuts too far?

Which is it?


11 posted on 03/23/2012 6:30:50 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (question)
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It’s not serious because it can’t be serious. There is no chance of its becoming law. Therefore, he can put in there whatever he wants to, since vote counting is of no consequence, and why some budget hawk Republicans (huelskamp) are perfectly happy to say, “no no I won’t support it, it’s not tight enough.”

All this does is create a straw man for Democrats to shoot at. Ryan doesn’t even say what deductions he plans to eliminate to compensate for lower personal and corporate tax rates.


12 posted on 03/23/2012 6:47:41 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: txrangerette
"Bartlett"

At some point ten years ago or more, Bartlett suffered a severe head injury. Or someone dropped him on his head. At any rate, the guy is now a semi-lunatic. Nothing he says can be taken seriously.

13 posted on 03/23/2012 7:01:23 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: LS

You can get more in cuts than that by just adopting the 2000 base line and budget.


14 posted on 03/23/2012 8:25:28 AM PDT by org.whodat
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To: org.whodat
You can get more cuts by doing a lot of things. How about we actually SUPPORT something that cuts instead of whining about what it doesn't do?

BTW, for over a year I've watched your posts and you NEVER have one single positive thing to say---that I've ever seen---about anything the Republicans do. It's always sniping, and I concluded long ago you are a Dem troll.

You have never, to my knowledge, stated a candidate who'se actually running that you support, for example. This budget is the latest dig.

15 posted on 03/23/2012 8:42:29 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually (Hendrix))
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To: LS

Well you sure have missed a lot. But just like the other 90% Americans, I think the congress sucks. No back bone, no leadership, here and there you have a good person, in case you missed it and you did, rush said the leadership was willing to increase taxes in the last budget deal.


16 posted on 03/23/2012 9:17:30 AM PDT by org.whodat
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To: org.whodat
As I recall, the last budget deal did not pass.

Who do you support for president.

What are the Republicans doing right? Whey is $5 TRILLION in cuts not acceptable?

17 posted on 03/23/2012 9:50:56 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually (Hendrix))
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The only conservative running Santorum. And the current republican leadership needs to be replaced.
18 posted on 03/23/2012 10:01:11 AM PDT by org.whodat
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To: org.whodat
Santorum, in many ways, is the exact opposite of a conservative. So, are you formally supporting Santorum?

As to the replacement of GOP leadership, I would agree. But there is a galaxy's worth of difference between saying that and doing anything that would support Dems, such as what you do by constantly and consistently whining and carping about the GOP. Rational analysis and constructive criticism is one thing. Sniping like a troll is another.

19 posted on 03/23/2012 12:55:32 PM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually (Hendrix))
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To: LS
Silly me ,here I thought this was a conservative forum, and you have changed it to the republican support group. Some of use think that ninety percent of the republican party are just democrap lite. Their only goal is to get to spend the money, it is not about smaller government and the constitution with many of the republicans. Try reading some of Mark Levins works, may help you.
20 posted on 03/23/2012 1:09:19 PM PDT by org.whodat
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