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To: Colofornian

I was too young back then.

You miss the point. Are you going to vote for some third party guy who doesn’t stand a chance of beating Obama? That is how we got Woodrow Wilson and Bill Clinton.
Anyway we are discussing the general election not the primaries so Bob Dole doesn’t compute.


660 posted on 03/23/2012 4:48:31 PM PDT by nandrew
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To: nandrew
You miss the point. Are you going to vote for some third party guy who doesn’t stand a chance of beating Obama?

You miss the point: Mitt Romney isn't a viable candidate. (He's a losing candidate)

Casting a vote for Mitt Romney, should he win the nomination, is throwing away your vote.

(May I suggest you start doing the math?)

Here's what I mean...

(1) There's more unregistered voters in this country (29% of entire population) than there are registered Republicans (29% of registered voters...so that's 29% of 71% of the population)
* So the GoP probably had less than 40 million voters in 2008
* In 2008, over 57% of the nation voted...which means over 13% of registered voters didn't show up to vote...1 in 25 of these registered voters (about 4% of all registered voters) were Gop-registered...So just over 1 in 7 registered didn't vote... ,br>* Of course, it IS true that the "no-shows" among registered voters are pretty equally distributed among GoP, Dems, & Independents...so a "no-show" GoP voter is oft' offset by a "no-show" democrat voter...
* But still, if you had about 40 million GoP voters in 2008 -- of which about 1.5 million were no-shows...how many more would the GoP have to "scare away" before they put the party at-risk of a "no-return" evaporation?

(2) We know that in 2010, White Evangelicals were 34% of the electorate...that wasn't just 34% of the GoP...but over 1/3rd of the entire vote!

Evangelicals in 2010 were probably almost 2/3rds of the GoP vote!

(3) So...at this point of the primaries...how's Mitt doin' "reeling in" those Evangelicals?

In the primaries, "If one excludes Virginia (where Romney faced only Paul) and Arizona (with its substantial Mormon population), Romney’s average among these voters drops to 17 percent.

Source: Romney’s challenge to sway evangelical voters

OK, yes, that's the primaries...but let's assume that Evangelicals "have nowhere to turn" and triple their support for Romney were he to win the nomination...Let's say that over half of Evangelical registered voters vote for Romney...

Even with that scenario, that still could mean that up to 15-16% of the entire electorate (almost 1 in 6 voters) -- either vote for Obama, don't vote, or vote third party...and that's just white Evangelicals! (That says nothing about non-Evangelical GoP voters, Independents, or Dems!!!)

I really can't see -- after the MSM & the Dems get done with Romney...plus Evangelical reluctance to vote for a racist-"I'm-a-god" candidate...where Romney would get much beyond 30% of the vote!

So...if you can find 1% of the electorate to agree with your "chance of beating Obama" philosophy -- people otherwise inclined to either vote third-party or not vote for the POTUS race...and you collectively manage to change the Romney total from say, 29%, to 30%, so what?

It's meaningless to say, "we helped a team in the SuperBowl so that instead of losing 46-29, they lost 46-30...or even if you somehow catalyze 3% to budge...do you really think that extra "field goal" that made it 46-32 instead of 46-29 was so "difference-making?"

No. A team that gets drubbed by 14 instead of by 17 gets drubbed either way.

People like you conclude that voting for a losing candidate (i.e. a third-party candidate) is throwing away your vote. Well, Romney is a losing candidate. And just because he could grab 1 in 7 more voters than a third-party candidate, still doesn't magically transform him into a "winning" candidate. Therefore, by definition, since he is a non-viable losing candidate, a vote for Romney (were he to win the nomination) is throwing away both your vote and your conscience...and furthermore, it sends a horrific message to the GoP establishment...that you'll ALWAYS vote for whatever RINO they send to you.

679 posted on 03/24/2012 12:53:30 AM PDT by Colofornian ( Tell us: Why do we want to vote for ONE socialist to defeat ANOTHER socialist again?)
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