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To: CharlesWayneCT
Imagine this from Martin’s perspective. You are a teen in a community that isn’t your own neighborhood. You are walking back to the house you are staying at. A car pulls up slowly and is following you. There is a large mean-looking hispanic guy staring at you. As you walk, he follows you slowly.

You try to walk faster, and then the guy gets out of his car and starts coming after you.

Do you assume that the guy is a good guy who is coming to ask you questions, or do you assume the guy is coming to rob you? If the gun is showing, it just makes the situation more threatening.

Martin was on the phone with his girlfriend when the incident started and ending just before he was shot. Given her account of the phone call, it would seem it went down more or less as you speculate. According to this article:

The lawyer [Benjamin Crump], who took an affidavit from the girl, quotes the girl on the cellphone as saying that Trayvon was walking home from the store and had temporarily taken refuge from the rain. He then began walking again, when he tells her, according to Crump, "I think this dude is following me."

"She tells him, 'baby, be careful, just run home,' " Crump said.

According to the girl, Trayvon says, "I think I lost him" then moments later says, "He is right behind me again. I'm not going to run, I'm going to walk fast."

Crump said "she hears another voice, 'What are you doing around here?' Trayvon says, 'Why are you following me?' " At that point, according to the girl, Travyon is pushed and his voice changes.

"She hears the altercation, suddenly, someone just hit the phone, because that's the last she hears," Crump said. She did not hear the shooting.

So, it would appear Zimmerman created the situation by threatening Martin. As such, his use of deadly force was not covered by the law. It's looking like Murder II at least.

This could all be a tragic misunderstanding, but I don’t see how Zimmerman gets out of this as the “victim”. Once the 911 operator told Zimmerman NOT to follow the guy, Zimmerman lost his chance to claim “self-defense”, in my opinion.

I agree.

55 posted on 03/21/2012 11:51:10 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: cynwoody
So, it would appear Zimmerman created the situation by threatening Martin. How did he threaten him?
56 posted on 03/21/2012 12:04:24 PM PDT by Ratman83
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