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To: Carry_Okie
The crux of the false analogy is that Mr. Friedman's distinction is not about "personhood;" it is about collective intent for genocide, which is a different crime than murder for convenience. The goal of abortion is not to kill all babies of only a particular race. Mr. Adams should learn better

Respectfully disagree. The evil of the Nazi Holocaust was not in the killing of Jews, as such. It was in the killing of people. That the Nazis made a false distinction between Jews and all other human beings does not require us to accept their premise -- or to mimic it by saying the unborn aren't really people. They were killing people, period. We are doing the same.

You might want to reexamine WHY they were doing it. Not because they had studied up on the theology of Judaism and decided it was worthy of capital punishment. The evil motives were political and economic -- a diabolical hash of envy, scapegoating, greed and ignorance -- and all this had been brewing a long time in the German mind. Nazi politics, half-baked modernism, eugenics, 20th century science combined to make it a distinctive atrocity, but at base it was about killing people; murder. Our American Holocaust is of liberal politics, thoroughly baked modernism, eugenics and 20th century science. Redefine humanity to exclude Jews there; redefine humanity to exclude preborn babies here. Good Germans held their noses and knew nothing, good Americans do much the same, saying it's none of their business, it's between a woman and her doctor.

It's murder. In the millions.

21 posted on 03/19/2012 7:31:39 AM PDT by Lady Lucky (Gingrich 2012: Open Throttle for America)
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To: Lady Lucky
That the Nazis made a false distinction between Jews and all other human beings does not require us to accept their premise -

It does when it comes to naming a historical event, not to evaluating whether or not it is evil. If you want to come up with similar term for abortion (which is advisable) then go for it.

You might want to reexamine WHY they were doing it.

Oh really? I take it you know all about the Sabbateans.

The evil motives were political and economic -- a diabolical hash of envy, scapegoating, greed and ignorance -

That was the pitch, but not the motive. I suggest you bone up on the three-hundred-year history that led to this particular genocide.

It's murder. In the millions.

Set intersection does not mean subset inclusion. They are both killings (murder being a legal term), but they are different. That's why we have had a word for "genocide" from long before the Shoah.

29 posted on 03/19/2012 7:58:17 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The RNC would prefer Obama to a conservative nominee.)
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