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This so called "war" is no more "winnable" than VIetnam was ever "winnable", since we are now trying to go way beyond the original objectives that Bush laid out in 2001 for the reasons why we went to war in Afghanistan in the first place. All of these objectives were met, but then, as is usually the case with our political leaders who can't seem to draw the line unless the country rises up against their stupid policies, then they tried to sell us a continuation of this mess by saying they needed to "train the Afghan forces to defend themselves". Which has turned out to be a farce and a "mission impossible".

Consider what Bush said on Sep 20, 2001....

Sep 20, 2001- BUSH:...
"tonight, the United States of America makes the following demands on the Taliban:
- Deliver all the leaders of Al Qaida who hide in your land.
- Release all foreign nationals you have unjustly imprisoned.
- Protect foreigners in your country.
- Close every terrorist training camp in Afghanistan
- Give the United States full access to terrorist training camps
- The Taliban must act and act immediately.
- They will hand over the terrorists, or they will share in their fate.

June 15, 2004 - BUSH:
"Afghanistan is no longer a terrorist factory sending thousands of killers into the world."

At that point, we should have armed them to the teeth and provided them with strategic air support for their ground troops, and given them complete ownership of their ground war so that they could have negotiated their own settlement with Pakistan to contain the Taliban from Pakistan.

Pakistan has the bomb (and kindly hosted bin Laden) and India has the bomb and there's tension there and then China and Russia side with Iran who is supplying Syria and ................it's a big impossible tangled up mess and Obama has left us looking like a bunch of indecisive nuts, whereby no one in their right mind would fear or trust us.