[ZULU]

Rules of engagement, general war-weariness (4th tour of duty), dealing with a vicious and treacherous foe he witnessed TIME AND AGAIN masquerading as one of us and then turning weapons against NATO or American forces.

WE need to get out of Afghanistan and we need to recognize we are in a worldwide war with Islam. WE can’t win THERE while we pander to Islam HERE. Nor can we force these savages to form a nation state in the image we would like.

This act was a fallout of the idiocy of George W. Bush and the current administration - fighting a war without goals against an enemy which is the totality of the people over there.

We need to understand that nation-building is wrong. That the only justification for military intervention anywhere is our immediate or long range interests, and that wars need to be waged quickly, brutally, definitively and be followed by an immediate pullout and no apologies.

[rockinqsranch]

Yes!

[MestaMachine]

YES! I could not possibly agree with you more.

[AAABEST]

Best response you’ve ever posted (that I’ve seen) on FR.

Logical, sober, VERY well stated and very well written too boot.

[onedoug]

...fighting a war without goals against an enemy which is the totality of the people over there.

We haven't fought a war with goals for 67 years now, Kuwait notwithstanding. And if soetoro is reelected we never will, nor ever be able to again.

[fallujah-nuker]

We need to understand that nation-building is wrong. That the only justification for military intervention anywhere is our immediate or long range interests, and that wars need to be waged quickly, brutally, definitively and be followed by an immediate pullout and no apologies.

"The Romans, had made their wars, as the French say, short and big...." - Machiavelli.

War on Terror is an idiotic concept. Had WW2 been fought in the same manner we would have declared war on blitzkrieg. Terror is merely the enemies tactic, it is not the enemy. Nazi Germany sowed the wind at Warsaw, Rotterdam and Coventry, they reaped the whirlwind at Cologne, Hamburg and Dresden.

The enemy has shown no quarter to our civilian population, they have no right to expect that quarter be granted to their own. If they wish to wage war on civilians, we should see who is best at it. Our 9-11 memorial should have been a silent wasteland where Kandahar once stood.

We should pull out, and then build up a large bomber force (perhaps even developing the ability to drop bombs from C-17's as an interim measure). Nothing fancy, something that can replace both the B-52 as a bomb truck and stand off missile launcher, and the KC-135 as a tanker. When they kill one of ours we kill a thousand of theirs.

I would not mind seeing Karzai meet the same fate as Najibullah, a fitting end. He reminds of that scum bag who acted as an intermediary in the Iran-Contra affair, Ollie North even brought it up in testimony before Congress. The pull crap on us, we level their city, in the coldest part of Winter. A bunch of the killed in the initial bombing, another percentage will be with out shelter and exposed to the elements, and succumb.

No more nation building, we should not bring democracy (they are as fit for representative government as a troupe of baboons). We should bring death and destruction. As I reflect upon my writing I realize that it was unfair of me to compare Pashtuns with baboons. Baboons, please accept my apologies for comparing you with the scum that infests Kandahar, Kabul and Jallalabad.

[Psalm 144]

I agree with all points including your tagline.